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Old 11-03-2014, 09:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Sky Hero - little spyder build thread and enhancements

The recently released Sky Hero's Little Spyder is 500 size Quadcopter and is designed to be a portable small platform for Go Pro 3 / Go Pro 4 and H3 3D.

The Little Spyder shares many common parts with the bigger Spyder and thus makes it the ideal platform base for my planned enhancement configurations.

I've recently purchased a frame only kit with the intention of using it as an interchangeable building block for
X8 configuration on stock booms and
X4 configuration on 700 size booms.

It's frame is much lighter than its big brother SH Spyder 700 and thus will be more efficient on identical setup.

UNBOXING.

The package arrived in a plain brown cardboard box.
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Inside is a nicely presented ready built airframe and canopy neatly tied up with a ribbon.
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Secured to the card board box via two cable ties.
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Free at last.
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Fiber glass canopy weights 58gm
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Whole airframe, landing gears and canopy weights 758gm net
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BIG brother's canopy on Little Spyder frame
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Little Spyder canopy follows Spyder's outline
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Old 11-03-2014, 09:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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My plan is to use the frame as a common skeleton core to which I will be able to interchange booms and motors configuration depending on mission objectives.

X8 STANDARD BOOM CONFIGURATION.

The main purpose of the Little Spyder is to be a compact H3 3D and GP3/4 platform.
X8 provides redundancy and great lifting performance whilst still maintaining same foot print.

Customising the ESCs to fit into the much shorter boom.
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Fits like a glove.
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Motor fitments
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Rear booms
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Front Booms
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Checking weight of each boom to enable static balancing so all four corners will be balanced. This is important for ultra smooth performance.
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Calibrating the ESCs and setting motors rotation directions.
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Trial fit to base.
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Old 11-03-2014, 01:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for doing this, Lynh!
Very much looking forward to the rest of your build!
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Old 11-03-2014, 06:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Custom made power distribution cable.
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Old 11-03-2014, 08:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Completed X8 config
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Old 11-04-2014, 07:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Awesome Lynh.
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Old 11-07-2014, 06:52 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Never seen anyone quite like Lynh.

It's impressive your unconditional ability to share.
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Old 11-07-2014, 05:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks Guys.
THE CORE
I am using stand offs to isolate vibration away from the FC.
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O-rings to dampens vibration
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Checking battery fitment with stand offs in place
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Mounting of PMU using ultra thin 3M tape
Space is at a premium so this will seat below the FC
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Mounting of FC
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Double vibration isolation
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RX mounting
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Very nice build. I Just order a kit and I'm trying to decide what motors to use and if I should go X4 or X8. Right now I'm leaning toward the Tmotor antigravity 2814 770kv motors. What do you think? What motors are you using?

Thanks in advance.
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Very nice build. I Just order a kit and I'm trying to decide what motors to use and if I should go X4 or X8. Right now I'm leaning toward the Tmotor antigravity 2814 770kv motors. What do you think? What motors are you using?



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I am using T-Motor MT 2216 - 11 : 900kV as I wanted to be able to run on both 4S and 3S.

If you love the way the little Spyder fly on X4 config, I would highly recommend you should try the X8 configuration.
It will raise your flying experience to the next level. It is Ultra stable even in winds that would normally ground my Spyder 850. It is also super agile and the 500 size frame with X8 config seemed to be the perfect combination for compactness, agility and stability.

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Here's my maiden in windy condition. Please look at the trees in the background and you can see the winds were very strong.

Sky Hero Little Spyder X8 Octocopter Maiden (1 min 38 sec)
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Very nice build. I Just order a kit and I'm trying to decide what motors to use and if I should go X4 or X8. Right now I'm leaning toward the Tmotor antigravity 2814 770kv motors. What do you think? What motors are you using?

Thanks in advance.
Ajax, I went with the KDE Direct 2814XF's. They're the same weight with a slightly higher KV value. I also liked the efficiency numbers swinging 10" props. However, I can't tell you how the bird flies as 4S 3700mAh packs have been sold out most places until this week.
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Lynh, did you purchase your FC mounting plate somewhere or was it a handmade item? I'm thinking that'll be ideal once I add a gimbal control and the DJI bluetooth for Ground Station.
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Lynh, did you purchase your FC mounting plate somewhere or was it a handmade item? I'm thinking that'll be ideal once I add a gimbal control and the DJI bluetooth for Ground Station.

I made that myself and I use that on all my builds. The less vibration that gets to the FC, the better the craft will fly.
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Old 11-08-2014, 05:58 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Getting ready for X4 config on 700 size boom.
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Thanks for the info and advice Lyhn. Wildcat I took a look at the KDE motors. I ran them through ecalc and it looks like they may be more efficient then the T motors. Thanks for the advice.
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Only getting 5-6 minutes of flight time with a cheap, Zippy 4S 3700mAh pack with the KDE 2814's and 10" props. Gonna order that battery tray from Bradatech.
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I am getting 6min on TP 4S 3300mAH with the X8 and landing with 20% batt.
I do believe as the Little Spyder is on the Porky scale, the small can motors will have to work much harder pulling greater Amps and hence such a shorter flight times.
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X4 EXTENDED 700 SIZE CONFIGURATION WITH LARGER MOTORS

The aim with this configuration is for longer flight time to enable longer cruising and loitering without the losing payload capacity.

As the stock motor mount and boom size limits the motors and props size that can be used to overcome the heavy nature of the little Spyder, I will be using 700 boom and larger motor mounts to enable the fitment of larger can size motors to swing bigger props.

From previous experiences with Spyder 700 - 850, it was determined that 13" is the ideal prop size for the X4 on the 700 class.

By using the same Frame Core and my modular interchangeable design, I can have two different flying quads via simply changing the arms.

Motor selection - light with plenty of lifting power and ability to swing up to 15" prop on 4S
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ESCs preparation for long boom, plenty of room so it's much easier than the X8 config.
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ESC configuration, motor direction and calibration settings.
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Customised length for asymmetric booms
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Static balancing of arms
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Completed arms - just PnP
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