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Old 12-25-2014, 11:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Bailout in Phoenix

I wondered if there was a way to setup "bailout" in Phoenix. I know there is an Active Flybarless setting, but it appears it just levels the heli when sticks are in the neutral position. I've got a new heli, and I'm using an Ikon controller. I'm trying to determine which switch I want for self-level and also trying to determine if I want to set up a mix to add positive pitch when self-level is engaged. I figured the best way to determine this would be playing with on the sim. Is there a way to do?
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I figured out the answer to my own question, and thought I would share. I figure that quite a few people would like to use this feature so here goes. This is with a DX8 radio, so one would have to tailor for their own equipment, but it should all work the same.
  1. In the DX8, go into System Setup for the model you are using for Phoenix and select <Switch Select>. Choose the switch you want to use (I'm using Trainer) and assign the switch to <Aux 2> (Channel 7 in Phoenix) or <Aux 3> (Channel 8 in Phoenix). For this example, I'm using Aux 2.
  2. In Phoenix, go to <System>, select the transmitter you are using, then select <Edit profile>. Scroll down to the "Helicopters" section and beside the item "Flybarless mode" select <Channel 7> and click <Finished> and then click <Finished> on the "Your controls" menu.
  3. Important: You must re-calibrate your transmitter for the switch/button to work. You must also make sure all throttle and pitch curves are linear and put the Throttle Hold switch in the "off" position (set TH to where moving the throttle stick changes throttle). Once that is done, click <System> and select <Your transmitter>. Click <Calibrate> and go through all of the steps. At the end of calibration, the bars should move in accordance with how you are moving your sticks. Engaging TH should stop the throttle bar from moving with movement of the left stick.
  4. In Phoenix, go into the <Model> menu for the model you want to set-up and select <Edit>. Click <Main Rotor> then click <Flybar>. Change the "Type" to <Active Flybarless>. Change the "Flybarless active response" to 300 (this goes from 0 to 500 with 500 being the fastest) then change "Flybarless active delay" to 0 (this goes from 0 to 500 with 0 being the fastest). If you want the heli to self-right upright or inverted depending on which is closest/quicker, put a checkmark in the box next to "Flybarless active inverted". The "active response" and "active delay" parameters adjust the speed of self-righting so you can play with those to make more realistic to your real life situation.
To add positive pitch to self-righting when the Trainer button is pushed:
  1. In your DX8 go to the main menu/Function List for your model. Select <Mixing>. Select <Cyclic > Thro> and change to <Mix 1> and select. Change to <Aux 2 > Pit>. Keep the 0% next to "Rate" but change the 0% right under that to 82%. At the bottom, you must click on <N>, <1>, <2>, and <H> to make this available in all IUs and Throttle Hold. Note: you can make this percentage anything you want. However realize if you are inverted, you probably want enough positive pitch increase to compensate for your stick being in a position of negative pitch. Look at the bars on the left to see what is happening when you push the Trainer button and you will see what I'm talking about.
I hope this helps someone who might be trying to do the same thing I was trying to do.
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Old 12-31-2014, 07:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I have been using the bailout in AccuRC the last couple of days. I set it up to use the gear channel on my DX8. I was just wondering how I was going to get more pitch for a faster climb out. Your last paragraph on mixing answered that.

Thanks for taking the time to post.
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