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Old 03-25-2015, 06:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default My Heliartist UH 60 500 size project

I was first looking for the heliartist Cobra AH-1 but they where always backorder . Then 2 weeks ago while navigating on the Flying Hobby site I saw the Heliartist UH 60 on sale from $469 down to $239. I don't have to tell you that I jump on it.

I understood that heliartist are out of business!

I just got it on the mail today. Just had time to unbox it before coming to work.

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So I plan to use one of my trex 500 , the ESP one for my project.
I ordered the Align 4 Blades head rotor with some cf scale blades.
I will be using an AR7200BX or a BEASTX, I have not decided yet. I have one of each available.
Power plant will be a CC becpro + CC EDGE 100 or Phoenix 100. Scorpion 3226-1400 with a 12T pinion that should give me around 1700 rpm of head speed if I remember.
Actually I have some GensAce 6S 2600 25C that I plan to use. (My Trex 500 batts).


Any comments or suggestion are welcome.
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So I plan to use one of my trex 500 , the ESP one for my project.
I ordered the Align 4 Blades head rotor with some cf scale blades.
I will be using an AR7200BX or a BEASTX, I have not decided yet. I have one of each available.
Power plant will be a CC becpro + CC EDGE 100 or Phoenix 100. Scorpion 3226-1400 with a 12T pinion that should give me around 1700 rpm of head speed if I remember.
Actually I have some GensAce 6S 2600 25C that I plan to use. (My Trex 500 batts).


Any comments or suggestion are welcome.
IMO a 1400kV is much too fast, especially for a 4 blade. I run a Savox 1300kV motor in my 500 sized UH-1N, and I have to govern it to around 89% to get it down to 1700rpm, and that is for a 2 blade.

I would suggest probably something around 1000kV as it will probably widen the choice of pinions a bit. I would also suggest trying for closer to 1600rpm for a 4 blade, you may even get slower.

RPM = 1000kV x 22.2V x 0.9 x 14T / 162T = 1726rpm at 100% towards the end of the flight, so governing to 95% would give you 1640rpm.

RPM = 1400kV x 22.2V x 0.9 x 12T / 162T = 2072rpm at 100% towards the end of the flight, so governing to 95% would give you 1968rpm. You would need to run a governor of 82% to get down to 1700rpm, which would be very likely to result in a very hot ESC unless you fly in very cold weather.

A Ice or Edge 75 is plenty for a scale 500 - you are likely to use about 400W for scale flying, which on 6s is only 18A. The closer you are to 95% throttle (governed) the cooler your ESC will be. My Ice 75 runs VERY hot as it is at 89% and stuffed inside the doghouse on my UH-1N, with zero ventilation. I see peaks over 90°C (not °F) on a hot day. I just use the internal BEC.

Make sure that either your 4 blade is plug and play (mechanically phased) or your FBL can adjust phasing electronically.

You are likely to find that your heli will be very tail heavy, so either ballast or a larger lipo will be required to get the CoG correct. I use 5000mAh 6s in my 500.

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IMO a 1400kV is much too fast, especially for a 4 blade....

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Just bought a Scorpion HK-3226-900KV
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I installed the landing gears and decides to change the supplied screws for the tail gear from wood screw to machine screws.









Final landing look
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I think the machine screws was a good move.
I am not a fan of the supplied screws in this area.
Looking good, keep it up.
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Gonna be cool when this is finished!
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Old 03-30-2015, 10:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Installed supplied front tail gear shaft assy. This shaft is design to install the boom block lower in the frame so the 31T gear is position above the block and not inside like in normal trex setup.
Replaced umbrella gear with the new type black gear.


Start to assemble the frame with supplied carbon side. I use a I2rc bottom plate I had laying around. Used standard main shaft bearings.



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45 deg tail assy completed.


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Received my main blades CarbonHobby BL-425-C-4B



To go with that I ordered some 95 mm carbon tail blades


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Installed tail linkage and mated with main frame

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Things going great tonight. installed the cyclic servos DS510 in the frame.
Build the 4 blades align head.




Installed the blades on.



Then did a trial ft in the frame to see what it would look like...WOW!!!



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Very nice fuse and keep up the good work. Listen to Andy he knows his stuff, helped me out on a lot of my projects that I have yet to post
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Been a while since I touch my project...I'm getting ready to maider after Beastx programation...maybe this week. Just noticed that some of the photo are not there anymore and i can't edit my post..so I'll repost with the photos...sorry for double post...but????
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I installed the landing gears and decides to change the supplied screws for the tail gear from wood screw to machine screws.





Final landing look


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Start to assemble the frame with supplied carbon side. I use a I2rc bottom plate I had laying around. Used standard main shaft bearings.




Installed supplied front tail gear shaft assy. This shaft is design to install the boom block lower in the frame so the 31T gear is position above the block and not inside like in normal trex setup.
Replaced umbrella gear with the new type black gear.

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Received my main blades CarbonHobby BL-425-C-4B



To go with that I ordered some 95 mm carbon tail blades

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Things going great tonight. installed the cyclic servos DS510 in the frame.
Build the 4 blades align head.




Installed the blades on.



Then did a trial ft in the frame to see what it would look like...WOW!!!

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Motor Installed (Scorpion HK-3226-900KV).
Talon 90 with Governing (1400, 1450 & 1500 rpm)& autorotation enable programation completed.
CC BEC PRO set to 6.0V
BeastX (AR7200BX) programation tomorow

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