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Old 05-18-2015, 03:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Can phoenix team develop bailout function in their flybarless system in phoenix.

Like have in Bravian demon and spirit fbl unit out there.

That will be AA plus feature for phoenix simulation helicopter pilots.
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Old 05-22-2015, 12:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I setup my rescue switch to reset the model, so at least I can avoid a crash, but a true rescue would be much appreciated.
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It's pretty much there with the "Active Flybarless" setting.
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Old 06-14-2015, 01:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It's pretty much there with the "Active Flybarless" setting.
Thanks for pointing that out. In my Control Profile I assigned my rescue switch channel to the "Flybarless mode" Control. Then setting the model's "Flybarless active response" to 500% and "Flybarless active delay" to 0% gives a decent rescue response. Now I have to program my TX to add positive collective.

There is also "Flybarless active inverted" that could be used, but my TX would not know which direction to apply collective in this case. In other word, it would be best if I could setup rescue with a climb-out at both an upright or inverted attitude, but at least rescue to an upright attitude with a climb-out is good.
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Same thing I did... didn't invoke the inverted bailout and programmed some pitch through a mix in my transmitter.
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There is also "Flybarless active inverted" that could be used, but my TX would not know which direction to apply collective in this case. In other word, it would be best if I could setup rescue with a climb-out at both an upright or inverted attitude, but at least rescue to an upright attitude with a climb-out is good.
I decided to use the "Flybarless active inverted" option. On my TX I setup a switch that will determine which collective, positive or negative, is applied, depending on which orientation, upright or inverted, I am using during my practice session. In this case I get used to the correct rescue response. It does not work for trying things that involve both orientations, but it is better that always rescuing upright if that is not what you are using for real.
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Old 06-15-2015, 05:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Can phoenix team develop bailout function in their flybarless system in phoenix.

Like have in Bravian demon and spirit fbl unit out there.

That will be AA plus feature for phoenix simulation helicopter pilots.
Thanks
I worked out how to do this on RF over a year ago. (Many models freely available with 3SX style bailout on that).

AccuRC has rescue feature available now too.

Phoenix, being a premium simulator, seems a little behind the curve on this one.

Odd thing is, that programmatically it should be fairly easy to do as Phoenix already has a self-level option. (Active Flybarless)

(I have a setting in my TX (Taranis) that when I hit rescue it goes full collective; negative if below half stick, positive if above half stick. The setting also locks out the cyclic. It simulates rescue with the Active inverted, but it not perfect),

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(I have a setting in my TX (Taranis) that when I hit rescue it goes full collective; negative if below half stick, positive if above half stick. The setting also locks out the cyclic. It simulates rescue with the Active inverted, but it not perfect),
Thanks, another great idea. I will see if I can setup my TX (Jeti DS-16) to do the same.

P.S. Yes, I was able to get this to work. I think that this will work just fine for me until I can upgrade my PC and try AccuRC.

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Old 04-30-2016, 05:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I setup my rescue switch to reset the model, so at least I can avoid a crash, but a true rescue would be much appreciated.
Dude! Nice! That's a very good way to train yourself. Of course I too would rather have the real thing. But, after this morning. Damn. I was doing very simple right side up mellow figure eights. I don't know what happened. I thought the days of crashing while right side up were over a long time ago. Nope. I got a bit of orientation confusion and that shook me up as well as had me heading towards the ground at a not very steep angle. Well, I suppose I had brain fart lock-up because without doing very much to counter it, I watched as I skipped across the ground like a rock on a lake.

I just got my trex 450 set up last weekend with Spirit Pro. I also just tested the rescue function in ACRO from an inverted position and it worked great. So, why didn't I hit the switch this time? Other than a sort of panic from a bit of orientation loss I couldn't tell you. All I know is that it sucks.

I haven't crashed doing something this easy since I had just started flying. What a bummer. I came home thinking I need to find a way use Phoenix to train myself to automatically hit the switch.

I understand Real Flight can do it. Not yet with Phoenix though. Oh well.
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