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Old 10-14-2018, 06:40 PM   #301 (permalink)
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How do we know that a belt or shaft drive would be heavier than a motorized tail? After all, the motor is the heaviest single part of a micro, except maybe the battery.

And as I alluded earlier, we build micros with heavier 7mm tail motors and so forth with no obvious detriment to performance.

I suspect that the real reason micros have motorized tails is cost, simplicity and ease of setup, not performance.

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If I can really dream, I wonder how hard it would be to make a shaft-drive or belt-drive tail for the Blade Micro or Nano copters?

I for one would gladly pay for that, along with my cf frame and brushless motor.



If it was possible...I sure

someone would have done it by now.
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Old 10-31-2018, 06:06 PM   #302 (permalink)
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Blade 500x, rtf & bnf.
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Old 10-31-2018, 08:13 PM   #303 (permalink)
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new chronos, cant wait!
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Old 10-31-2018, 10:39 PM   #304 (permalink)
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They tried that with the 130S....no good! The 130X was far superior in my opinion. The toque tube tail was MUCH more stable and predictable in flight. It was also a lot easier to work on than the 130S. To change something as simple as the vertical fin on the 130S it was a 20 minute job of pulling apart the whole tail assembly.

The 130X just needed some refinements or a V2 update to work out the kinks.
I'd be totally cool w that. I loved the 130x. main issue was tail gears. my tail servo got buggered up quick bc i crashed a lot back then.

align 150x tail holds well.. and k120. i dont care i just want original 130x w no tail issues. Thatd be great.

I didnt care for 130s. too heavy and tail hold was bad.
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:51 AM   #305 (permalink)
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new chronos, cant wait!
Maybe the correct mfgr Forum could answer your request...

Horizon Hobby does not make Compass heli's so it is highly unlikely that your request will be honored
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:30 PM   #306 (permalink)
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If you absolutely cannot keep our beloved 130X, MCPX and MCPX-BL in production, can you at least, Mr. Blade, keep making the parts for them?

Not realistic, maybe, but parts are where the margins are, anyway..
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Old 12-11-2018, 08:17 AM   #307 (permalink)
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If you absolutely cannot keep our beloved 130X, MCPX and MCPX-BL in production, can you at least, Mr. Blade, keep making the parts for them?

Not realistic, maybe, but parts are where the margins are, anyway..
When was Blades last helicopter release? The Fusion series surfaced quite a while back. I am shocked that nothing new was announced for Christmas. It would have been a perfect time for a small double brushless micro release for indoor flying...(cough cough).
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Old 12-12-2018, 12:13 AM   #308 (permalink)
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Lets start with a heli that doesn't get discontinued and go from there.
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Old 12-12-2018, 03:31 AM   #309 (permalink)
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Bring back the original Msr
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Old 12-12-2018, 07:27 AM   #310 (permalink)
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Lets start with a heli that doesn't get discontinued and go from there.
I agree 100%.


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Old 12-13-2018, 09:56 AM   #311 (permalink)
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If you absolutely cannot keep our beloved 130X, MCPX and MCPX-BL in production, can you at least, Mr. Blade, keep making the parts for them?

Not realistic, maybe, but parts are where the margins are, anyway..
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When was Blades last helicopter release? The Fusion series surfaced quite a while back. I am shocked that nothing new was announced for Christmas. It would have been a perfect time for a small double brushless micro release for indoor flying...(cough cough).
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Lets start with a heli that doesn't get discontinued and go from there.
I suspect that HH has decided that there isn't much money to be made in helis, period.

I was told (dunno how true this is) that helicopters represent something like 2% of HH total sales, and of that 2%, most are fixed pitch.

Still, you'd think that not redesigning your product line every couple of years would save on fixed costs. It's not like HH needs to spend a bunch of dough designing the MCPX, its brushless cousin or the 130X.

Subtle hint.
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Old 12-16-2018, 11:46 AM   #312 (permalink)
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BNF or RTF 450x , 500x, or 550x with AR7210BX..... Something that the non-hardcore guys can use that is build around a 6s battery.
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Old 12-16-2018, 05:03 PM   #313 (permalink)
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BNF or RTF 450x , 500x, or 550x with AR7210BX..... Something that the non-hardcore guys can use that is build around a 6s battery.
So how about this one ?
Trio 360 CFX BNF Basic (BLH4755)
6s and has aAR7210 , I hear it's a dream to fly ..
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:09 AM   #314 (permalink)
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I'd like to see a Chinook based on a 180.
Now that would be cool.
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Old 02-22-2019, 10:56 AM   #315 (permalink)
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How about officially retiring the use of those 1.25mm and 2.0mm pico/micro power connectors once and for all?

Every single heli/quad that uses them has power related issues until they’re swapped out with something else.

PLEASE - end this madness already !!!
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:30 PM   #316 (permalink)
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So you really think that the used small red JST BEC plug on the 200QX quad, Blade 230s and others is any better?

Why not support yellow XT30 plugs or something better / bigger like that (e.g XT60, EC-3, for 3s) out-of-the-box?

Yes I know, in the lipo storage box - because of the closed plastic chassis - there would have not been any space for a bigger XT30 plug for the 200QX.

Fail by design?!

Even the riffeled Ultra Deans plugs (red) are much better than that and I can solder them much easier than the blue EC-3 and they worked with 3s 2200mah on heli and gliders pretty well!
Because I do not have to press the golden bullets in the housing (like we have to do with the EC-3) XT60 are a bit easier to solder; no need to worry that any solder may get over the top into the grooves so you have to try again your luck with new golden bullets.
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:36 PM   #317 (permalink)
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> Quote: PLEASE - end this madness already !!!

I)

Well, how about ending the "HH support madness" that you are not allowed:

- to change the plugs at the end of the cable
- and that this will void any warranty (of the whole Blade quad/heli whatever), even you have not soldered ANYTHING on the board

- and that the (German) HH support actively asks you on phone if there had been any plug ends changed when you wanted to send the board in over a dealer (RMA) because of burnt mosfets (cause by one defective motor)?

The next question:

Why are HH spare replacement parts so ridiculous high?
(part prices for Blade 4503D steadily increase in big steps since 2012 and now paddle parts, spindle shaft and mainshaft are discontinued)

The Blade 200QX 4-in-1 replacement ESC for example is rated as 89,99EUR, but the burned mosfet is actually in the cent range!
Shouldn't it rather be a replacement cost like ~20-25$ including shipment for an owner who bought the same model twice from a HH dealer?


II)

How about stopping any "tuning" requirements because plastic chassis are easily braking at the motor arms?

III)

How about stopping "tuning" announcements like HH US did it once with the MicroHeli carbon tuning frame (V1) on their US website for their Blade 200QX quad product even that this frame:

- a) does not really support the 200QX motors to be mounted on the arms without holding the motor in place (like RakonHeli allows it) so you will damage them very likely when you tigthen them from the bottom with the white 200QX middle plastic screw

- b) the short board cupper antenna has no good range with that MH CF frame (V1) and there is no good space to mount the antenna away from carbon fibre (and when you mount to the top there are two CF main plates shielding good HF reception from the bottom!)

- c) the CF plates frame of the side arms being so thin and foldable holes ("Langsloch") and close to the corner that they easily brake (the main frame with the bottom+top CF plates would have probably overlived it)?

The MH "tuning frame" (V1) cost another ~89EUR and was another fail by design product, sadly to say.
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Old 02-25-2019, 04:18 PM   #318 (permalink)
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I'd like an out-of-the-box double brushless indoor heli. Nano S2 BL
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Old 02-25-2019, 04:37 PM   #320 (permalink)
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You know? I just remembered a Walkera CB100 that I had back in, like, 2011--it was 100-sized and double brushless. I flew that thing daily in my garage, crashed the hell out it, and never once did I have to replace motor!

So, there's really no excuse! The technology to create a fully brushless Nano has existed for a long time, now.

EDIT: For example, this double-brushless Walkera Genius seems pretty capable. Look, no tail blow-outs!

Walkera Genius Cp brushless 3d flight (2 min 35 sec)


And, this was in 2011!
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