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Old 07-21-2017, 01:46 PM   #41 (permalink)
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ok, my turn. good job blade. i know you are doing your best to keep intro helis alive while still being realistic w profit margins and resources given the fact that the heli market is a small niche market and high end helis are so excellent it just makes sense to keep it simple and easier to attract whomever we can into the heli world.

honestly for the situation.. i think its great. people complain about 450x etc being discontinued, lynx quits making parts etc. then they start to re-release the mcpx and 450x and now they are attacked for that too.

i wish i had the options blade has now back when i started. ive owned everything from an air hog and blade msr to a synergy e7 and jeti ds16 and i appreciate every model ive ever touched and had the opportunity to tinker with.

i fly the crap outta my v911 too.

honestly if any newer pilots want a decent powered 325mm bnf heli and hates the idea of having to learn to program an ar7210 or something.. then there ya go.

plus 450x parts will remain alive, new canopies and hopefully aftermarket frames again.

im actually slowly building my first 450x w a lynx frame i picked up and im tickled to know that parts will be around for a while longer plus blade is saving money and enticing new pilots to try helis.

Although at nearly 400 bucks, I'd grab the 470L.

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Old 07-21-2017, 05:22 PM   #42 (permalink)
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This is my 3rd summer in this hobby. I started with a blade 450 3d for 236 dollars new , with a dx6i radio included.I learned how to fly a CP heli with that thing. Within a year and a half I bought a 300cfx, 500x, 550x. I also have a 600x that I bought in the box for 540 dollars a year ago or so. I'm ready to upgrade to synergy and or goblin when parts dry up. My point is I was able to learn cp flying and was able to experiment with different size helis very cheaply and discover what I like and don't like. With all you have to learn in this hobby if you were like me and were never involved in anyway before. Bind and fly was great. Putting a heli together when your starting out was the last thing I wanted. Are blade helis the best ? no. There were issues with cheap bearings and crappy esc's and some bad servos. There x line(500x, 550x, 600x and 700x) was pretty good and fly good. Blade got me in hobby and allowed me to crash and learn cheaply with good customer support.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:02 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I think they have realized they can't please seasoned pilots.
Actually, they did well with the Pro Series helis. I was quite pleased (still am) with my 550X and just about everyone who had one loved it. Same for the 700X. I was about to drop some serious cash and pull the trigger on a full 700X combo kit but the discontinuation talk started popping up. They could have had a long running "seasoned pilot" series favorite with actual combo kits and kits available without electronics, etc but they just didn't stick with it.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:10 PM   #44 (permalink)
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i had the first 450x, i flew the crap out of that heli. It's relatively easy to fix and parts were cheap. It had a crappy motor, that was my only complaint with it.
I can't believe they didn't put the excellent E-flite 450H motor they already have in inventory on this version of the 450X. Seriously, it's only 10 bucks more than the POS E-flite 440H motor that loves to eat its own bearings for lunch.

The 450H motor is awesome. It exudes quality as a serious motor out of the box. It's not like the two motors were even made by the same company. Very good power for the model and very smooth/reliable. I have over 500 flights on that motor in my upgraded 450X, which is heavier than stock, and it's still going strong. I gave up after multiple free 440H replacements because I got tired of not only swapping them out, but also putting the heli at risk of a crash when (not if) it failed potentially at a very bad time in flight.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:37 PM   #45 (permalink)
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This.

I'm so tired of hearing people complain on this forum, or really not just here..just the culture of today in general where people complain about literally everything online to the point that people and companies give up.

Those of you that aren't pleased with this heli, you're obviously not in the market for a blade heli in general, so just leave it at that. They make entry level helis and hopefully their new offerings being sold at many hobby shops bring more people into the hobby.

There are plenty of high end helis out there to move up to later. Or if you already own one, great, let blade be in their niche. No need to knock the blade brand, if it's not for you, don't buy it and move on.
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+1. Some folks are just gonna hate and bitch and moan regardless of what forum you may visit. Unfortunately it's just the way of the world and the internet these days. I had both the original 300X and the 450X. Learned a lot from those Helis. Mostly how to fly a heli. Both are in the box and In great shape just do not really know who to sell them to. Just fly my 180 in backyard now. Looking at OXY 2. Probably try to pick one up at IRCHA and the associated bits and pieces to build the 2.
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Spot on. Blade got me started in this hobby and I've actually had very few problems with my Blade helis. Still fly my 180 CFX today and it's pretty good for the money. Some people just bitch and whine about everything these days. I wouldn't actually consider buying this heli, but only because I'm past the point of buying any Blade heli. But that doesn't mean it isn't suitable for a relative beginner looking for a reasonable BNF option.
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"State your differing opinion and move on." ... EXACTLY !

If this was actually happening then I don't think anyone would have issues with the negative posts. But it's not. Rather, it's post after post, repeat after repeat of the same negative issues, replayed over and over. In just about every recent Blade thread. There's no need to beat any more dead out of that horse.

Folks are just getting tired of the REPEATED complaining, that's all. Message received. LOUD and CLEAR. Yes, some of you got SCREWED. Yes, there are BETTER and more EXPENSIVE helis out there. GOT IT! However, these threads are not about those helis nor the details of the corn-holing you were forced to endure.

I have other helis too, kits and semi-scale. Guess what - I've been jilted by heli manufacturers as well, more than once, POOR ME ! But you take it in stride and remember this is a HOBBY that people of ALL SKILL LEVELS are trying to ENJOY - in their SPARE TIME for cryin' out loud ! There are going to be disappointments - learn to DEAL WITH THEM !

Constant bickering isn't doing this hobby any favor either as far as setting examples for newcomers.

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It's a sad state of affairs, but, like mentioned, that's just the way the internet and the world is today.

Up until recently I've never felt to need to exercise the ignore function in these forums. That said, sadly, my list seems to be growing by the day - two of which are posters in this thread. One occasionally has some useful posts whereas the other is nothing but senseless rubbish. I thank the posters who don't lay down and tolerate this s#!t and call it out when they see it. Thank you!!

Blade has their target market - if you're not in that market, move on! This heli looks like yet another revival of a great flying heli that no doubt sold enough to warrant a revival. But, of course the internet know-it-all's... well.. they know better!
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:54 PM   #46 (permalink)
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"State your differing opinion and move on." ... EXACTLY !

If this was actually happening then I don't think anyone would have issues with the negative posts. But it's not. Rather, it's post after post, repeat after repeat of the same negative issues, replayed over and over. In just about every recent Blade thread. There's no need to beat any more dead out of that horse.

Folks are just getting tired of the REPEATED complaining, that's all. Message received. LOUD and CLEAR. Yes, some of you got SCREWED. Yes, there are BETTER and more EXPENSIVE helis out there. GOT IT! However, these threads are not about those helis nor the details of the corn-holing you were forced to endure.

I have other helis too, kits and semi-scale. Guess what - I've been jilted by heli manufacturers as well, more than once, POOR ME ! But you take it in stride and remember this is a HOBBY that people of ALL SKILL LEVELS are trying to ENJOY - in their SPARE TIME for cryin' out loud ! There are going to be disappointments - learn to DEAL WITH THEM !

Constant bickering isn't doing this hobby any favor either as far as setting examples for newcomers.

Please, Find your ZEN !!!
Coming from someone doing all that internet "screaming"? Sure thing, maaaan.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:54 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I can't believe they didn't put the excellent E-flite 450H motor they already have in inventory on this version of the 450X. Seriously, it's only 10 bucks more than the POS E-flite 440H motor that loves to eat its own bearings for lunch.

The 450H motor is awesome. It exudes quality as a serious motor out of the box. It's not like the two motors were even made by the same company. Very good power for the model and very smooth/reliable. I have over 500 flights on that motor in my upgraded 450X, which is heavier than stock, and it's still going strong. I gave up after multiple free 440H replacements because I got tired of not only swapping them out, but also putting the heli at risk of a crash when (not if) it failed potentially at a very bad time in flight.
This is the one major gripe I have to agree with.
I have the 450H motor in my 450 3D and that is an awesome and amazing motor and should have been part of this upgrade.
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:01 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I am still relatively new to helis and have or have had a Nano CPS, 180CFX, 270CFX & 360CFX.

I learned on the Nano and its beat all to hell (shakes like a junky going through withdraws), but it still fly's and fits in my yard fine.

Ripping the 180 around is what really got me interested. Small enough for me to run up the street and fly in the school fields.

270CFX is a little beast and I'm having a blast learning my flips, loops & rolls with it.

Just sold the 360 as I added a 420 and they were close in size. The 360 was the best of all of them, ripped pretty hard and flew like a dream.

Anyway, Blade definitely got me into the hobby and every one I have had has been a great flyer!

All that being said, I don't really understand the 330. I would have just kept the 270 & 360 in the lineup if I was making the decisions. BUT, I'm an operations guy, not marketing / sales.
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:07 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I learned on the Nano and its beat all to hell (shakes like a junky going through withdraws), but it still fly's and fits in my yard fine.
Clean the servos. No need to take anything apart. Just spritz some electronics cleaner/lube into the servo tracks and work them up and down with the radio. I like the DeOxit F5 stuff. That will fix those shakes right up unless you actually have physically damaged parts causing an imbalance.
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Old 07-21-2017, 10:50 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Recently put together a 450x v1 from left over parts of my 450x Lynx build from a while back. The stock one is a nice flying heli that let's me get some fast back to back flights with my 450xl which is why I put it together. The new release will keep the parts stream going for quit a while and really digging the new high vis canopy, long live the 450x!
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Old 07-21-2017, 11:28 PM   #51 (permalink)
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hell horizon probably found a couple of shipping containers with a hole bunch of units in it, and some one was like hey lets slap a new canopy on this and call it a 330.
i am glad to see the old 450x back. it isnt the best heli, but its cheap and its way better then all the larger motor on tail options that blades has decided to put on the market in the last couple of years. talk about a step backwards.
i think they should ditch all those make a 230 size with a belt drive keep the bail out functions and promote the hell out of it and the 330.

to answer jesusfreaks question that got this thread going. if you remember the 270cfx came with the ar7210 that had locked software so you could have the bailout the function. there was quite a backlash about it. hh should have just put in their own fbl sytem and called it good.
i have the 270 it flies great, but i had to get the regular software from beastx because it had a software glitch. hit idle up and it would just shoot for the moon even with the collective all the way down.
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Old 07-21-2017, 11:54 PM   #52 (permalink)
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i have the 270 it flies great, but i had to get the regular software from beastx because it had a software glitch. hit idle up and it would just shoot for the moon even with the collective all the way down.
Sounds like an improper setup issue. That would be impossible if the collective pitch range was set correctly. In every idle-up mode, or even normal mode, you should always have at least a few degrees of negative pitch at full low collective to "stick" it to the ground. Even at a flat zero degrees pitch, it could spin its guts out with a headspeed of a zillion RPM and not even lift off. The head would fail and blow up first.
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Old 07-22-2017, 04:45 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I still enjoy flying my 450X.
Great Heli.
Don't fly as much, because it's slighty too big for my flying site. But it fly's very well!
For me the Mcpx BL, 180 CFX and the 450X were my favourites.
I did n't like the 130s.
Going to buy the 3 blade 180cfx

Horizon Hobby Uk shutting down a few month ago, is this a good thing or bad thing for the future of Blade Heli's?

Hope not bad. Would like to see MCPX BL V3 that is faultless.
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Old 07-22-2017, 07:01 PM   #54 (permalink)
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From what I can see it looks like a revamped 450X with a low tech FBL.

That's not all bad. It means most of the major components of the 450X will continue for a while longer. I'm not a big fan of the original plasitic frame and it's servo geometry my V1 has survived suprisingly well.

Granted my V1 has been upgraded to V2 standards and the 450H motor it has been a great beater platform to learn from. I'm not sure why they didn't upgrade the crappy motor for this new release but I don't see that as a huge problem.

I've learned a lot more from this heli than just about any other I've owned and I've beat the crap out of it.

Now if Lynx would resurrect it's CF 450X frame life would be good.
As much as I love my 450X my all Lynx 450X blows it away. Hands down.

I'll keep my first 450X alive as long as I can but if I can't do better for my Lynx build then when I can't keep it going I'll probably buy a T-Rex 470
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Sounds like an improper setup issue. That would be impossible if the collective pitch range was set correctly. In every idle-up mode, or even normal mode, you should always have at least a few degrees of negative pitch at full low collective to "stick" it to the ground. Even at a flat zero degrees pitch, it could spin its guts out with a headspeed of a zillion RPM and not even lift off. The head would fail and blow up first.
Agree, you probably have normal pitch curves on normal mode and straight pitch curves for idle up 1, it's possible your normal is 50% where in idle up it's 75% add the head speed, I could see that happening.



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I'm not a big fan of the original plasitic frame and it's servo geometry my V1 has survived suprisingly well.
I never have flown the older version. How tough was the plastic frame? Would it survive a crash?
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Yes, it's kind of like the old Timex commercials. It'll take a likkin and keep on tikkin. They're hard to kill. I just don't like the wonky servo geometry.
It doesn't seem to make a huge difference in flight, but I'm not a smack flyer. Just kind of a pain for setup and canopy clearance when you try to set max throws on servos. +12 -12 is about all you can get, but you habe to be careful and honestly even though I like to set it up that way my skills rarely need that much.
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I had one. It has thin sides near the skid mounts and mine cracked there. The skids break easily too its quite brittle. I never understood the bellcrank because you are stuck with that particular servo horn length. Also the ball links were tiny. Its canopy mounts are soft and can bend during a crash (plastic).
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Yup, skids break easily but are cheap. That's why I have several spares. No sweat. Frames seem to be much harder to break.

I still dread the day I break my Lynx frame.
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I still dread the day I break my Lynx frame.
The day I destroy my 450X Lynx frame and can't fix it or get a replacement is the day my 450X goes into the trash for good. It's got a great set of donor components for an OXY4 anyway so hopefully it will be released when (not if) that day comes.
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