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Old 02-26-2018, 10:14 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Think I'll weigh my x5 when I get home. But I do know this. My goblin 500 is heavier than my x5. I don't need a scale to know this. I can feel the difference. But I am curious what my x5 weighs
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Think I'll weigh my x5 when I get home. But I do know this. My goblin 500 is heavier than my x5. I don't need a scale to know this. I can feel the difference. But I am curious what my x5 weighs
My G500(original) was 50g heavier than my X5 FES with identical electronics both running 520mm blades. I ran them both on 4000mah batteries as well. There is not that much difference if both are equipped light.
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Yeah. That's why I did this weighing. Sick of opinion and false facts all over.
Internet regurgitation. If somebody says something long and hard enough, its regarded as fact, when in fact couldn't be further from the truth.

Weight means very little to me. Some of the best flying machines I've owned were not featherweights.
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My G500(original) was 50g heavier than my X5 FES with identical electronics both running 520mm blades. I ran them both on 4000mah batteries as well. There is not that much difference if both are equipped light.
I have the stretched boom on my x5, running 550 blades. My goblin 500 is using 505 blades. I'll be interested to see what each weighs.
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Internet regurgitation. If somebody says something long and hard enough, its regarded as fact, when in fact couldn't be further from the truth.

Weight means very little to me. Some of the best flying machines I've owned were not featherweights.
Exactly what I am finding.
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I have the stretched boom on my x5, running 550 blades. My goblin 500 is using 505 blades. I'll be interested to see what each weighs.
Is this the older 500 Goblin? I'll check my G500 sport out when I get home.
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Yeah, mine is the original goblin 500. I have noticed wide frame helicopter that use a lot of metal, such as the goblin are much heavier. But we will see. I wish I would have done this last night. But today I'll have to wait until I get home from work to weigh them.
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Old 02-26-2018, 11:20 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I have the stretched boom on my x5, running 550 blades. My goblin 500 is using 505 blades. I'll be interested to see what each weighs.
Hated my G500 on 500 blades. Machine flew awesome on 516 Rails or Edge 523.

Never had the stretch kit on my X5, didn't think it was offered back then. I did try the belt tail which was a small stretch, but never liked how it skipped the belt in hard maneuvers.
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Hated my G500 on 500 blades. Machine flew awesome on 516 Rails or Edge 523.

Never had the stretch kit on my X5, didn't think it was offered back then. I did try the belt tail which was a small stretch, but never liked how it skipped the belt in hard maneuvers.
I have a set of 523's I might try on the goblin. Should be able to lower the headspeed a bit with that too.
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Old 02-26-2018, 12:40 PM   #30 (permalink)
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You might find this useful/interesting (or it may bore you to death).

It's a disk/blade loading table based on the flying weights of my heli's (and a few others). Items in orange are estimates, all other numbers are measured. The weights are all flying weights, with batteries.

Obviously weights are dependant upon many things including the electronics which may account for why my G500 is lighter than the G500S that is supposed to have a lighter air frame.

The float factor is an attempt to compare the blade loading with the size of the heli to identify how floaty the heli should be in the air. A small heli may have a similar blade loading to a large heli but it will almost certainly not feel as floaty as a big heli - this calculation tries to put a number to the probable feel of the heli.
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Old 02-26-2018, 01:06 PM   #31 (permalink)
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You hear that thinking often that heavy helis must be stronger so must crash better but it's not always the case. The extra weight means more momentum so a heavier heli crashes harder than a light one.

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Old 02-26-2018, 03:16 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Am I the only one that did a double take thinking newb was talking to himself?

TF whats with copying his avatar?
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Old 02-26-2018, 03:20 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I could tell you what's with it. But I am not suppose to use such language on this site. But he know's what he is.

I've ignored him so I don't see it anymore. But it's not cool.
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Old 02-26-2018, 03:53 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Am I the only one that did a double take thinking newb was talking to himself?

TF whats with copying his avatar?
Lol I thought it was my phone or tapatalk. Was about to do a reset

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Lol I thought it was my phone or tapatalk. Was about to do a reset
Nope. Just TF showing us what a class act he is. When he's not beating up on first time posters, that is.
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:16 PM   #36 (permalink)
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It's amazing what you can get when you're nice.
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Am I the only one that did a double take thinking newb was talking to himself?

TF whats with copying his avatar?


I thought he was arguing with himself in another thread. It made no sense till I noticed the user name.
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:34 PM   #38 (permalink)
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cmon guys
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Just messing with him. He sends me stuff like this as if I care. Ignore away.

Why tell me.



Real class act.

Anyway, towpilot is making me change it back.

Hmmm what should I use. Gotta find something or leave it blank.
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I thought he was arguing with himself in another thread. It made no sense till I noticed the user name.
so by trying to degrade me you're suddenly a bigger man now? You're better than me by attacking me?
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