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05-11-2018, 06:32 AM | #21 (permalink) | |
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Yeah, the elaborate detailed graphics with all kinds of lines and fades and paint effects etc. look fantastic on the ground but in the air at a distance it turns into a grey blob.
My fav canopy for visibility on small helis, like 450 and 500s was a bright orange really simple design originally made by Phoenixtech and sometimes sold by Hobbyking but now I cannot find them anymore. Quote:
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05-11-2018, 08:20 AM | #22 (permalink) |
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Mfg's should provide the 1st Canopy or Shell: Un Tainted
So we is UN dependent on Flying their Advertisement Bill Boards for EM .
They should PAY $$$ for the Advertisement > tHEIR sALES. gOOD oL AMERICAN CAPITILIZIUM $$$ They can purchase their advertisement or at least maybe give a Kupon for a FREE One after the 1st Un Tainted one is wadded up. Free Sponsorship / Just Good Sportsmanship The FREE One can then have their Advertisement . With a UnTainted One you have LIBERTY do what YOU want . You could even make it sing ! = Independence Like " Pinkies Nail Salon ! " or Better !!! Then when they ask : ?? Can I pick it up : NO! Can I see what's Under the Hood : NO ! What is that ?? That is None of Your Business that's MY Business Last edited by GREYEAGLE; 05-11-2018 at 08:22 AM.. Reason: Create YOUR OWN - FREEDOM |
05-11-2018, 08:28 AM | #23 (permalink) |
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Wow.
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05-11-2018, 09:57 AM | #24 (permalink) |
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Oh yeah
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05-11-2018, 01:28 PM | #25 (permalink) |
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Perceived contrast
What makes the heli show up against the background? 1. Your color vision. Not everyone sees colors the same way. Make a test: Color Blind Test ? Check Your Color Vision | EnChroma If you are partially color blind you may have different preferences than others. 2. Contrast helps. A blue heli and a blue sky? A green heli and green trees in the background? Not good! Choose a canopy with strong contrast against the background. 3. Eyes have better resolution and higher sensitivity for black/white than for color. Color also affects both resolution and sensitivity. Among the basic colors, eyes are most sensitive for green. More about eye's response to light and color. Visible Light and the Eye's Response It is hard to recommend a superior color or a superior pattern, but in brief: – Fluorescent color is good. – Patterns tend to mix to grey at a distance. – I like something similar to fluorescent orange most of the time: https://www.oxytech.com.au/fluorescent-orange On this canopy, e.g., the orange is pretty good, and the yellow is OK too, but the black does not in any way contribute to visibility, IMO. /Bo
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05-11-2018, 11:19 PM | #26 (permalink) |
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Combination of three colours: Bright fluorescent red orange, yellow and black. I find three colours aids in giving more orientation information and minimal pattern extends how far that helps.
Green and blue both easily blend into the background where I fly, especially if deeper. I've been tempted at times to go with green but yellow seems to pop more vs green when fluorescent. Unfortunately, that makes for boring non-unique canopies but fewer crashes
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05-12-2018, 06:24 AM | #27 (permalink) |
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Do fluorescens last?
It's rarely a problem to me, but if your canopy lasts a while you might want a canopy cover to protect the colors, especially the fluorescent ones, from being bleached by the UV in the sun light. It happens faster then one expects, IMO. Even in our (60° north) sun... Quite a few of the nice 700 size canopys are some $100 or more, so worth taking care of, IMHO. A protective cover can also protect from scratches in transport and in depot. /Bo
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05-12-2018, 07:57 AM | #28 (permalink) | ||
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My eyes see orange colors the easiest in all conditions.
My eyes prefer canopies with orange color for visibility in poor conditions but I also especially like the KBDD blades with the all orange color underneath... This is because I tend to fly by the disk when the heli is far away from me... Note that I prefer big air type flying. I find the disk color (at a distance) an additional plus in knowing what orientation the heli is in especially at a distance. Below is a video of me flying my 550U in overcast conditions... You can see how visible the KBDD blades are even from a distance. Please excuse the shaky video as my wife had a hard time holding the heavy DSLR steady which was used to take this video.
A few pics of the orange canopy/blade combo:
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05-12-2018, 09:43 AM | #29 (permalink) |
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I did this to one of mine using black vinyl sheet. It's actually quite good for visibility but I have a solid yellow that is probably a bit better in low light.
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05-12-2018, 09:52 AM | #30 (permalink) |
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Bright lime green.
Just to give you guys a laugh, I have a Trex 700E DFC, and, as others have mentioned, I don't like the Trex color schemes with the dark blue... Anyway, after a minor crash that cracked the canopy in a few places, I got a hare brained scheme to go to Hobby Lobby and look for florescent colored Duck tape - well, I found bright YELLOW and cut and shaped a bunch of it all around the canopy. I can SEE the thing much better. I don't care about any extra weight, it flies just fine, and I'm too embarassed to post a pic... Last edited by gmann; 05-12-2018 at 12:27 PM.. Reason: OK, pics added... |
05-12-2018, 11:05 AM | #31 (permalink) | |
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Edit: Thanks for the pics......... .
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05-12-2018, 01:49 PM | #32 (permalink) | |
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05-12-2018, 02:59 PM | #33 (permalink) |
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It'sVeryEasy too do your own :Then your Not a Dependent
Actually pretty low cost and the artisan craft skill sets grow.
Little patients in the " SHOP " Very Low cost air brush like a Badger, Very Low cost craft water base paint from the craft store. From Pearls /to Glow in the Dark / Florescent Pearls / Metal Flake : It's their in the Craft Store but they are closed on Sunday's. Not working with Solvents for the reducers of the paint. Water bases do behave weird though - kinda got to learn new habits. Little tape work with auto motive fine line , figure out the required masking's in layers. Final coat is a good clear poly. For the Gloss. When you damage one ? Not only can you reinforce things like grommet holes' Make the repair - wet sand off the gloss, toss it in a bucket of water and soap, scotchbrite off your Old Artistic ability - and have a go at something NEW ! Just tell em it came from Pinkies Nail Salon and you got about $6.oo in Craft store paint. You is a Independent Rascal and actually do your OWN work. Remember:A Professional RC Model Helicopter Pilot like YOU : Cause you IS Actually get Paid $$$ for their Hobbies as a Professional for Toy Flying - and Purchase from Vendors who pay for their advertisement ! Last edited by GREYEAGLE; 05-12-2018 at 03:08 PM.. Reason: Don'tlet the Thought Police tell ya IT's ILLEGAL |
05-28-2018, 11:15 AM | #34 (permalink) |
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Last edited by TheBum; 05-29-2018 at 11:59 AM.. Reason: Reduced the image size with the option to click on it for the full sized image |
05-29-2018, 05:23 AM | #35 (permalink) |
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I am with the majority here. Bright orange and reds. A little yellow mixed in is fine as well. I had a green canopy on my Assault 700, and that thing almost disappears on an overcast day. Just not good enough for my eyes.
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05-29-2018, 11:58 AM | #36 (permalink) |
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Any bright neon color works for me. The human eye is most sensitive to green light, so neon green is probably the most visible, but I tend to like either neon red/orange or neon yellow. That said, it's also important to have come contrast. Sections of neon colors separated by black areas really helps with orientation. I do not like black windshields; I prefer a windshield that reflects well to tell me when the heli is nose in when it's far off.
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05-29-2018, 09:54 PM | #37 (permalink) |
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I agree that a black windshield is no good. Prefer bright yellow. Red turns black at a distance.
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05-29-2018, 11:06 PM | #38 (permalink) |
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Do one up with these color's : Then See what YOU Thunkity
Don't be thinking too hard neiter:
Black Wind Screen Then the Base color for the Bleach Bottle on the 450 > is the color of a : Idaho Russet Potato . Potato Color ! Now when your flying it ?? WHAT DO YOU SEE ???? LOL ! ( It look's like a Flying Potato ! ) Last edited by GREYEAGLE; 05-29-2018 at 11:08 PM.. Reason: Remember:A Professional RC Model Helicopter Pilot like YOU : Cause you IS |
05-30-2018, 04:54 AM | #39 (permalink) | |
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Red, if bright red and a little yellow added, is good, to me. Dark red becomes black and hard to see at a distance, IMO. In addition to tint there is glare/non-glare and fluorescens, that also can affect visibility. At the field and at meetings I see some fly without canopy, as if it makes no difference, so, what do I know? /Bo
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05-30-2018, 07:41 AM | #40 (permalink) |
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Not discussed is what problem we are trying to solve. Seeing the orientation during nearby 3D ? Seeing the helicopter 1000 feet away ? Multicolor and Contrast are clearly for nearby since they will blend into gray at any distance and would be useless for going far out and coming back for a big air maneuver as in F3C. But might work for 3D orientation at 100 feet.
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