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Old 02-06-2020, 03:02 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Da Dir das ignorieren offenbar nicht gelingen mag....


Ich hoffe, Dein automatisches Übersetzungstool bringt den Sinne des folgenden Beitrages ordentlich rüber - es ist schon eine echt schwache Leistung, wenn man auf sowas angewiesen ist! Eigentlich genauso schlimm, wie mit Formeln nicht umgehen zu können (wie wir) und vor allem eines so hochgebildeten Menschen wie Du es sein willst, völlig unwürdig!


Welchen akademischen Abschluss hatte nochmal der Herr, den Du als Deine einzige kompetente Autorität in den Kreisen der Motorenbastler identifiziert haben willst?


Ihr seid Euch jedenfalls sehr ähnlich: statt Euch in einem Fachforum mit gleich- oder höherwertigen Partnern auseinanderzusetzen, versucht Ihr unter Hobbyisten die Halbgötter zu geben!


Das hier stammt von einem richtigen Dipl. -Ing.:

http://powerditto.de/Modellierung-Theorie2.doc

Du kannst ihm - unter Ingenieuren - gerne erklären, was er falsch gemacht hat.

Mit Propellern und deren Wirkungsgraden hat das Verfahren rein garnichts zu tun -ein Propeller ist für einen Motor eine genauso beliebige Last, wie eine Wirbelstrombremse, ein Generator, Deine Lämpchen, ein Holzbalken oder ein nasser Scheuerlappen, den er in der Luft umherschleudert.
Es sei nur daran erinnert, dass ein Propeller am Boden im Stand ganz andere Lasten generiert, als im Fluge. Ader das kannst du natürlich nicht wissen, du bist ja noch nie ein Modell geflogen.

Ansonsten fällt auf, dass Du ausser "Powercroco" ganz offenbar weltweit keine anderen Motorenbastler zu kennen scheinst!

Was ist denn da los im fortschrittlichsten Land der Welt?
Du müsstest doch vor allem bei Dir zu Hause Fans haben ohne Ende, die alle darauf warten, alles viel besser machen zu dürfen, als die doofen Deutschen Bastler!


Weiter viel Spaß mit Deinen Harmonischen!

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Old 02-06-2020, 03:20 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Powercroco,
You can pick any reference you chose to any of this information including Christians and compare their electrical degrees professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own. Please learn that crowd affirmation is the last thing you should consider when searching for a better motor.You see the dull motor forum my fans created with nothing new there but old words we said years ago? Who suffers? I dont learn anything in any of those places and you won't even stay there for fear of boredom that's why you're here. But thankfully you point them to the western star. I know you like the motor you just cant say it


There is nothing you could really show me mathematically I don't know but you should forward this windows word sheet of math calculation to Zwieblum,Stefan and those specific German modelers who have difficulty seeing past Powercroco to Hubertus level testing of ABB. A much higher authority with all the electrical Drs. and their degrees you are metrically concerned with. Christian Lucas, however deficient you suggest, is the one who taught you, and holds the LRK patent. That's pretty relevant here. Don't pull all of Germany's hobbyist into this swamp of not knowing anything when it is only about 20 drunk people there. Please share the fun you had with the harmonics. Zwieblum mistakenly believes you have all this data and fudges the consumers to this non fact. Do they know a load in a Hubertus lab environment is presented via steady state dyne meter not unilog and a prop Sir. They use Magtrol motor and Yokogawa power analyzers that are discrete enough to measure > 97% efficiency. Your logger wont show harmonics or the power factor. You inadequately utilize the oscilloscopes capabilities. Nevertheless you can always send those propellor loads so your crew can see them twist. I am not limited to the low pwm settings of a Tribunus or YGE 300/400 or need to hi jack cofe plates for lower core loss so it's no issue for me to turn your propellers. As you can see from the sophomoric lesson in electronics and measurement the scope is far more useful than just showing the generated line voltage. You also see the benefits of the wind have zero to do with copper losses. You should be thankful for Christian who without any electrical degrees shows more understanding about the major role a few percent more in efficiency plays into power delivery.

Instead of ChX doing it why didn't your graduate engineer, explain these simple concepts 17 years ago to Stefan and this winding methodology to you? Am I the only other winder you know because you pointed the entire forum here for new winding ideas instead of to your graduate engineering expert. You friend should teach you that all loads aren't the same.

BTW the confident US pilots are doing just fine in the open world of inclusiveness. They haven't even begun to really get into composites yet and the speed is already there. Maybe in that case they are better??



You see the attachments are from Real engineers with real Dynos.

Happy Harmonics,
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Wenn jemand lange Weile haben sollte:




Die ersten 16 Versionen von Herrn Hargetts Beitrag:


Quote:
1)

04:20AM
Whats yours in?
You pick any reference to any of this information including Christians and compare there electrical degrees to your own.
__________________________________________________ __________________________

2)
Whats yours in?
Powercroco,
You can pick any reference to any of this information including Christians you chose and compare their electrical degrees and professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own.

__________________________________________________ ___________________________

3)
Whats yours in?
Powercroco,
You can pick any reference to any of this information including Christians you chose and compare their electrical degrees and professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own.

Happy Harmonics,
Hubert,
__________________________________________________ ____________________________

4)
04:38AM
Whats yours in?
Powercroco,
You can pick any reference to any of this information including Christians you chose and compare their electrical degrees and professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own. Please learn that crowd affirmation is the last thing you should consider when searching for a better motor.You see the dull motor forum my fans created with nothing new there but words? Who suffers? But thankfully you point them to the western star.

Happy Harmonics,
Hubert
__________________________________________________ _____________________________


5)
04:46AM

Whats yours in?
Powercroco,
You can pick any reference to any of this information including Christians you chose and compare their electrical degrees and professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own. Please learn that crowd affirmation is the last thing you should consider when searching for a better motor.You see the dull motor forum my fans created with nothing new there but words? Who suffers? But thankfully you point them to the western star.

Es gibt nichts, was Sie mir mathematisch wirklich zeigen könnten, ich weiß es nicht, aber Sie sollten dieses Windows-Word-Sheet an Zwieblum, Stefan und jene spezifischen deutschen Modeler weiterleiten, die Schwierigkeiten haben, Powercroco an Hubertus vorbei zu sehen. Eine viel höhere Autorität als Lucas. Derjenige, der dich unterrichtet hat.
Wo ist der Spaß, den Sie mit den Harmonischen BTW hatten? Sie haben diese Daten richtig?

Happy Harmonics,
Hubert
__________________________________________________ _________________________________

6)
04:53AM

Whats yours in?
Powercroco,
You can pick any reference to any of this information including Christians you chose and compare their electrical degrees and professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own. Please learn that crowd affirmation is the last thing you should consider when searching for a better motor.You see the dull motor forum my fans created with nothing new there but words? Who suffers? But thankfully you point them to the western star.


Es gibt nichts, was Sie mir mathematisch wirklich zeigen könnten, ich weiß es nicht, aber Sie sollten dieses windows-word-Sheet an Zwieblum, Stefan und jene spezifischen deutschen Modeler weiterleiten, die Schwierigkeiten haben, Powercroco an Hubertus vorbei zu sehen. Eine viel höhere Autorität als Lucas. Derjenige, der dich unterrichtet hat.
Wo ist der Spaß, den Sie mit den Harmonischen BTW hatten? Sie haben diese Daten richtig? Die Belastung in einem Labor wird über ein stationäres Dyne-Messgerät, nicht unilog, und eine Stütze dargestellt. Trotzdem können Sie diese Ladungen immer versenden. Ich bin nicht auf ein Tribunus oder YGE 300/400 oder die Shelf-Laufwerke beschränkt, es ist also kein Problem.

Happy Harmonics,
Hubert


__________________________________________________ ____________________________________

7)
05:14AM

Whats yours in?
Powercroco,
You can pick any reference to any of this information including Christians you chose and compare their electrical degrees and professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own. Please learn that crowd affirmation is the last thing you should consider when searching for a better motor.You see the dull motor forum my fans created with nothing new there but words? Who suffers? You won't even stay there in boredom. But thankfully you point them to the western star.


Es gibt nichts, was Sie mir mathematisch wirklich zeigen könnten, ich weiß es nicht, aber Sie sollten dieses Windows-Word-Sheet an Zwieblum, Stefan und jene spezifischen deutschen Modeler weiterleiten, die Schwierigkeiten haben, Powercroco an Hubertus vorbei zu sehen. Eine viel höhere Autorität mit allen elektrischen Drs. Wie mangelhaft Sie auch sein mögen, Lucas hat es Ihnen beigebracht. Ziehen Sie nicht alle deutschen Bastler in diesen Sumpf von nur 20 Jahren. Wo ist der Spaß, den Sie mit den Harmonischen hatten? Zwieblum sagt, Sie haben diese Daten. Die Belastung in einer Hubertus-Laborumgebung wird über ein stationäres Dyne-Messgerät, nicht unilog, und eine Stütze dargestellt. Sie verwenden einen Yokogawa-Leistungsanalysator, der diskret genug ist, um einen Wirkungsgrad von> 97% zu messen. Ihr Logger zeigt keine Harmonischen oder den Leistungsfaktor an.Trotzdem können Sie diese Propellerladungen immer senden, damit Ihre Crew sehen kann, wie sie sich drehen. Ich bin nicht auf die niedrigen PWM-Einstellungen eines Tribunus oder YGE 300/400 beschränkt, und ich muss auch keine Kaffeeplatten für einen geringeren Kernverlust anbauen, sodass es für mich kein Problem ist, Ihre Propeller zu drehen. Wie Sie sehen können, dient das Oszilloskop nicht nur der Anzeige der erzeugten Netzspannung. Und die Vorteile des Windes haben nichts mit Kupferverlusten zu tun.

Happy Harmonics,
Hubert


__________________________________________________ ______________________________________


8)
05:18AM

Whats yours in?
Powercroco,
You can pick any reference you chose to any of this information including Christians and compare their electrical degrees professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own. Please learn that crowd affirmation is the last thing you should consider when searching for a better motor.You see the dull motor forum my fans created with nothing new there but old words we said years ago? Who suffers? I dont learn anything there and you won't even stay there in boredom that's why you're here. But thankfully you point them to the western star. I know you like the motor you just cant say it



Es gibt nichts, was Sie mir mathematisch wirklich zeigen könnten, ich weiß es nicht, aber Sie sollten dieses Windows-Word-Sheet an Zwieblum, Stefan und jene spezifischen deutschen Modeler weiterleiten, die Schwierigkeiten haben, Powercroco an Hubertus vorbei zu sehen. Eine viel höhere Autorität mit allen elektrischen Drs. Wie mangelhaft Sie auch sein mögen, Lucas hat es Ihnen beigebracht. Ziehen Sie nicht alle deutschen Bastler in diesen Sumpf von nur 20 Jahren. Wo ist der Spaß, den Sie mit den Harmonischen hatten? Zwieblum sagt, Sie haben diese Daten. Die Belastung in einer Hubertus-Laborumgebung wird über ein stationäres Dyne-Messgerät, nicht unilog, und eine Stütze dargestellt. Sie verwenden einen Yokogawa-Leistungsanalysator, der diskret genug ist, um einen Wirkungsgrad von> 97% zu messen. Ihr Logger zeigt keine Harmonischen oder den Leistungsfaktor an.Trotzdem können Sie diese Propellerladungen immer senden, damit Ihre Crew sehen kann, wie sie sich drehen. Ich bin nicht auf die niedrigen PWM-Einstellungen eines Tribunus oder YGE 300/400 beschränkt, und ich muss auch keine Kaffeeplatten für einen geringeren Kernverlust anbauen, sodass es für mich kein Problem ist, Ihre Propeller zu drehen. Wie Sie sehen können, dient das Oszilloskop nicht nur der Anzeige der erzeugten Netzspannung. Und die Vorteile des Windes haben nichts mit Kupferverlusten zu tun.

Do you think I need them to tell me the motor looks good......LOL!

Happy Harmonics,
Hubert
__________________________________________________ ____________________________________


9)
05:24AM


Powercroco,
You can pick any reference you chose to any of this information including Christians and compare their electrical degrees professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own. Please learn that crowd affirmation is the last thing you should consider when searching for a better motor.You see the dull motor forum my fans created with nothing new there but old words we said years ago? Who suffers? I dont learn anything there and you won't even stay there in boredom that's why you're here. But thankfully you point them to the western star. I know you like the motor you just cant say it. I know by how much you smash the like button that people liking the work bothers you tremendously



Es gibt nichts, was Sie mir mathematisch wirklich zeigen könnten, ich weiß es nicht, aber Sie sollten dieses Windows-Word-Sheet an Zwieblum, Stefan und jene spezifischen deutschen Modeler weiterleiten, die Schwierigkeiten haben, Powercroco an Hubertus vorbei zu sehen. Eine viel höhere Autorität mit allen elektrischen Drs. Wie mangelhaft Sie auch sein mögen, Lucas hat es Ihnen beigebracht. Ziehen Sie nicht alle deutschen Bastler in diesen Sumpf von nur 20 Jahren. Wo ist der Spaß, den Sie mit den Harmonischen hatten? Zwieblum sagt, Sie haben diese Daten. Die Belastung in einer Hubertus-Laborumgebung wird über ein stationäres Dyne-Messgerät, nicht unilog, und eine Stütze dargestellt. Sie verwenden einen Yokogawa-Leistungsanalysator, der diskret genug ist, um einen Wirkungsgrad von> 97% zu messen. Ihr Logger zeigt keine Harmonischen oder den Leistungsfaktor an.Trotzdem können Sie diese Propellerladungen immer senden, damit Ihre Crew sehen kann, wie sie sich drehen. Ich bin nicht auf die niedrigen PWM-Einstellungen eines Tribunus oder YGE 300/400 beschränkt, und ich muss auch keine Kaffeeplatten für einen geringeren Kernverlust anbauen, sodass es für mich kein Problem ist, Ihre Propeller zu drehen. Wie Sie sehen können, dient das Oszilloskop nicht nur der Anzeige der erzeugten Netzspannung. Und die Vorteile des Windes haben nichts mit Kupferverlusten zu tun.

Do you think I need them to tell me the motor looks good......LOL

Happy Harmonics,
Hubert

__________________________________________________ _____________________________________


10)
05:31AM

Powercroco,
You can pick any reference you chose to any of this information including Christians and compare their electrical degrees professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own. Please learn that crowd affirmation is the last thing you should consider when searching for a better motor.You see the dull motor forum my fans created with nothing new there but old words we said years ago? Who suffers? I dont learn anything in any of those places and you won't even stay there for fear of boredom that's why you're here. But thankfully you point them to the western star. I know you like the motor you just cant say it. I know by how much you smash the like button that people liking the work bothers you tremendously



There is nothing you could really show me mathematically I don't know but you should forward this windows word sheet to Zwieblum,Stefan and those specific German modelers who have difficulty seeing past Powercroco to Hubertus level testing of ABB. A much higher authority with all the electrical Drs and their degrees you are concerned with. Lucas, however deficient you suggest, is the one who taught you. Don't pull all of Germany's hobbyist into this swamp of not knowing anything when it is only about 20 people worldwide. Where is the fun you had with the harmonics? Zwieblum says you have this data. Load in a Hubertus lab environment is presented via steady state dyne meter not unilog and a prop Sir. They use Yokogawa power analyser that's discrete enough to measure > 97% efficiency. Your logger wont show harmonics or the power factor. You inadequately utilize the oscilloscopes capabilities.
Nevertheless you can always send those propellor loads so your crew can see them twist. I am not limited to the low pwm settings of a Tribunus or YGE 300/400 or need to hi jack cofe plates for lower core loss so it's no issue for me to turn your propellers. As you can see from the sophomoric lesson in electronics and measurement the scope is for more than just showing the generated line voltage. And the benefits of the wind have zero to do with copper losses.

Do you think I need them to tell me the motor looks good......LOL

Happy Harmonics,
Hubert

__________________________________________________ ___________________________________________

11)
05:42AM

Powercroco,
You can pick any reference you chose to any of this information including Christians and compare their electrical degrees professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own. Please learn that crowd affirmation is the last thing you should consider when searching for a better motor.You see the dull motor forum my fans created with nothing new there but old words we said years ago? Who suffers? I dont learn anything in any of those places and you won't even stay there for fear of boredom that's why you're here. But thankfully you point them to the western star. I know you like the motor you just cant say it. I know by how much you smash the like button that people liking the work bothers you tremendously



There is nothing you could really show me mathematically I don't know but you should forward this windows word sheet to Zwieblum,Stefan and those specific German modelers who have difficulty seeing past Powercroco to Hubertus level testing of ABB. A much higher authority with all the electrical Drs. and their degrees you are metrically concerned with. Christian Lucas, however deficient you suggest, is the one who taught you, and holds the LRK patent. That's pretty relevant here. Don't pull all of Germany's hobbyist into this swamp of not knowing anything when it is only about 20 people there. Please share the fun you had with the harmonics? Zwieblum says you have all this data. Do they know load in a Hubertus lab environment is presented via steady state dyne meter not unilog and a prop Sir. They use Magtrol motor and Yokogawa power analyzers that are discrete enough to measure > 97% efficiency. Your logger wont show harmonics or the power factor. You inadequately utilize the oscilloscopes capabilities. Nevertheless you can always send those propellor loads so your crew can see them twist. I am not limited to the low pwm settings of a Tribunus or YGE 300/400 or need to hi jack cofe plates for lower core loss so it's no issue for me to turn your propellers. As you can see from the sophomoric lesson in electronics and measurement the scope is for more than just showing the generated line voltage. The benefits of the wind have zero to do with copper losses and you see ChX was the only one capable of explaining what I do here to that group that "gets it" all from power calc.

Do you think I need them to tell me the motor looks good? LOL my eyes work very well.

Happy Harmonics,
Hubert

__________________________________________________ __________________________________________

12)

05:46AM

Whats yours in?
Powercroco,
You can pick any reference you chose to any of this information including Christians and compare their electrical degrees professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own. Please learn that crowd affirmation is the last thing you should consider when searching for a better motor.You see the dull motor forum my fans created with nothing new there but old words we said years ago? Who suffers? I dont learn anything in any of those places and you won't even stay there for fear of boredom that's why you're here. But thankfully you point them to the western star. I know you like the motor you just cant say it



There is nothing you could really show me mathematically I don't know but you should forward this windows word sheet of math calculation to Zwieblum,Stefan and those specific German modelers who have difficulty seeing past Powercroco to Hubertus level testing of ABB. A much higher authority with all the electrical Drs. and their degrees you are metrically concerned with. Christian Lucas, however deficient you suggest, is the one who taught you, and holds the LRK patent. That's pretty relevant here. Don't pull all of Germany's hobbyist into this swamp of not knowing anything when it is only about 20 people there. Please share the fun you had with the harmonics? Zwieblum says you have all this data. Do they know load in a Hubertus lab environment is presented via steady state dyne meter not unilog and a prop Sir. They use Magtrol motor and Yokogawa power analyzers that are discrete enough to measure > 97% efficiency. Your logger wont show harmonics or the power factor. You inadequately utilize the oscilloscopes capabilities. Nevertheless you can always send those propellor loads so your crew can see them twist. I am not limited to the low pwm settings of a Tribunus or YGE 300/400 or need to hi jack cofe plates for lower core loss so it's no issue for me to turn your propellers. As you can see from the sophomoric lesson in electronics and measurement the scope is for more than just showing the generated line voltage. The benefits of the wind have zero to do with copper losses and you see ChX was the only one capable of explaining what I do here to that group that "gets it" all from power calc.

Do you think I need them to tell me the motor looks good? I know by how much you hit the like button today that people liking the work bothers you tremendously.

Happy Harmonics,
Hubert

__________________________________________________ ______________________________________________

13)
0:5:50

Powercroco,
You can pick any reference you chose to any of this information including Christians and compare their electrical degrees professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own. Please learn that crowd affirmation is the last thing you should consider when searching for a better motor.You see the dull motor forum my fans created with nothing new there but old words we said years ago? Who suffers? I dont learn anything in any of those places and you won't even stay there for fear of boredom that's why you're here. But thankfully you point them to the western star. I know you like the motor you just cant say it



There is nothing you could really show me mathematically I don't know but you should forward this windows word sheet of math calculation to Zwieblum,Stefan and those specific German modelers who have difficulty seeing past Powercroco to Hubertus level testing of ABB. A much higher authority with all the electrical Drs. and their degrees you are metrically concerned with. Christian Lucas, however deficient you suggest, is the one who taught you, and holds the LRK patent. That's pretty relevant here. Don't pull all of Germany's hobbyist into this swamp of not knowing anything when it is only about 20 drunk people there. Please share the fun you had with the harmonics? Zwieblum says you have all this data. Do they know load in a Hubertus lab environment is presented via steady state dyne meter not unilog and a prop Sir. They use Magtrol motor and Yokogawa power analyzers that are discrete enough to measure > 97% efficiency. Your logger wont show harmonics or the power factor. You inadequately utilize the oscilloscopes capabilities. Nevertheless you can always send those propellor loads so your crew can see them twist. I am not limited to the low pwm settings of a Tribunus or YGE 300/400 or need to hi jack cofe plates for lower core loss so it's no issue for me to turn your propellers. As you can see from the sophomoric lesson in electronics and measurement the scope is for more useful than just showing the generated line voltage. You also see the benefits of the wind have zero to do with copper losses and you see ChX was the only one capable of explaining what I do here to that group that "gets it" all from power calc. There's no excuse when the math is right there for the bright.

Do you think I need them to tell me the motor looks good? I know by how much you hit the like button today that people liking the work bothers you tremendously.

Happy Harmonics,
Hubert

__________________________________________________ ________________________________________

14)
05:58AM

Whats yours in?
Powercroco,
You can pick any reference you chose to any of this information including Christians and compare their electrical degrees professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own. Please learn that crowd affirmation is the last thing you should consider when searching for a better motor.You see the dull motor forum my fans created with nothing new there but old words we said years ago? Who suffers? I dont learn anything in any of those places and you won't even stay there for fear of boredom that's why you're here. But thankfully you point them to the western star. I know you like the motor you just cant say it



There is nothing you could really show me mathematically I don't know but you should forward this windows word sheet of math calculation to Zwieblum,Stefan and those specific German modelers who have difficulty seeing past Powercroco to Hubertus level testing of ABB. A much higher authority with all the electrical Drs. and their degrees you are metrically concerned with. Christian Lucas, however deficient you suggest, is the one who taught you, and holds the LRK patent. That's pretty relevant here. Don't pull all of Germany's hobbyist into this swamp of not knowing anything when it is only about 20 drunk people there. Please share the fun you had with the harmonics Zwieblum mistakenly believes you have all this data. Do they know load in a Hubertus lab environment is presented via steady state dyne meter not unilog and a prop Sir. They use Magtrol motor and Yokogawa power analyzers that are discrete enough to measure > 97% efficiency. Your logger wont show harmonics or the power factor. You inadequately utilize the oscilloscopes capabilities. Nevertheless you can always send those propellor loads so your crew can see them twist. I am not limited to the low pwm settings of a Tribunus or YGE 300/400 or need to hi jack cofe plates for lower core loss so it's no issue for me to turn your propellers. As you can see from the sophomoric lesson in electronics and measurement the scope is far more useful than just showing the generated line voltage. You also see the benefits of the wind have zero to do with copper losses. You should be thankful for Christian who without any electrical degrees shows more understanding about the major role a few percent more in efficiency plays into power delivery. Why didn't your group of experts with degrees he doesn't have explain this simple concept 17 years ago?

Do you think I need fans to tell me the motor looks good ?

Happy Harmonics,
Hubert

__________________________________________________ ______________________________________________


15)
06:03AM

Whats yours in?
Powercroco,
You can pick any reference you chose to any of this information including Christians and compare their electrical degrees professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own. Please learn that crowd affirmation is the last thing you should consider when searching for a better motor.You see the dull motor forum my fans created with nothing new there but old words we said years ago? Who suffers? I dont learn anything in any of those places and you won't even stay there for fear of boredom that's why you're here. But thankfully you point them to the western star. I know you like the motor you just cant say it



There is nothing you could really show me mathematically I don't know but you should forward this windows word sheet of math calculation to Zwieblum,Stefan and those specific German modelers who have difficulty seeing past Powercroco to Hubertus level testing of ABB. A much higher authority with all the electrical Drs. and their degrees you are metrically concerned with. Christian Lucas, however deficient you suggest, is the one who taught you, and holds the LRK patent. That's pretty relevant here. Don't pull all of Germany's hobbyist into this swamp of not knowing anything when it is only about 20 drunk people there. Please share the fun you had with the harmonics. Zwieblum mistakenly believes you have all this data and fudges the consumers to this non fact. Do they know load in a Hubertus lab environment is presented via steady state dyne meter not unilog and a prop Sir. They use Magtrol motor and Yokogawa power analyzers that are discrete enough to measure > 97% efficiency. Your logger wont show harmonics or the power factor. You inadequately utilize the oscilloscopes capabilities. Nevertheless you can always send those propellor loads so your crew can see them twist. I am not limited to the low pwm settings of a Tribunus or YGE 300/400 or need to hi jack cofe plates for lower core loss so it's no issue for me to turn your propellers. As you can see from the sophomoric lesson in electronics and measurement the scope is far more useful than just showing the generated line voltage. You also see the benefits of the wind have zero to do with copper losses. You should be thankful for Christian who without any electrical degrees shows more understanding about the major role a few percent more in efficiency plays into power delivery. Why didn't your group of experts, with degrees he doesn't have, explain these simple concepts 17 years ago to Stefan?

Do you think I need fans to tell me the motor looks good ?

Happy Harmonics,
Hubert

__________________________________________________ ______________________________________________


16)
06:11AM

Whats yours in?
Powercroco,
You can pick any reference you chose to any of this information including Christians and compare their electrical degrees professional work and reference in the relevant fields of study to your own. Please learn that crowd affirmation is the last thing you should consider when searching for a better motor.You see the dull motor forum my fans created with nothing new there but old words we said years ago? Who suffers? I dont learn anything in any of those places and you won't even stay there for fear of boredom that's why you're here. But thankfully you point them to the western star. I know you like the motor you just cant say it



There is nothing you could really show me mathematically I don't know but you should forward this windows word sheet of math calculation to Zwieblum,Stefan and those specific German modelers who have difficulty seeing past Powercroco to Hubertus level testing of ABB. A much higher authority with all the electrical Drs. and their degrees you are metrically concerned with. Christian Lucas, however deficient you suggest, is the one who taught you, and holds the LRK patent. That's pretty relevant here. Don't pull all of Germany's hobbyist into this swamp of not knowing anything when it is only about 20 drunk people there. Please share the fun you had with the harmonics. Zwieblum mistakenly believes you have all this data and fudges the consumers to this non fact. Do they know load in a Hubertus lab environment is presented via steady state dyne meter not unilog and a prop Sir. They use Magtrol motor and Yokogawa power analyzers that are discrete enough to measure > 97% efficiency. Your logger wont show harmonics or the power factor. You inadequately utilize the oscilloscopes capabilities. Nevertheless you can always send those propellor loads so your crew can see them twist. I am not limited to the low pwm settings of a Tribunus or YGE 300/400 or need to hi jack cofe plates for lower core loss so it's no issue for me to turn your propellers. As you can see from the sophomoric lesson in electronics and measurement the scope is far more useful than just showing the generated line voltage. You also see the benefits of the wind have zero to do with copper losses. You should be thankful for Christian who without any electrical degrees shows more understanding about the major role a few percent more in efficiency plays into power delivery. Why didn't your group of experts, with degrees he doesn't have, explain these simple concepts 17 years ago to Stefan?

Do you think I need fans to tell me the motor looks good? It also appears that the confident US pilots are doing just fine in the open world of inclusiveness. They haven't even begun to really get into composites yet and the speed is already there. Maybe we will help with that. I have AT in Germany to help with that.


Happy Harmonics,
Hubert

Aktuell (12:18PM) ist Nummer 17 aktuell.

Ganz sicher folgen noch 20 mehr.


Am allerlustigsten: Christian Lucas hält das LRK Patent....


So ich habe zu tun.
Also bis irgendwann

weiter viel Spaß mit "Hubert Hargetts Harmonischen" (abgekürzt: HHH)


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Hey you do know the purpose of editing right? U get hung up on that alot and only need the final version which is basically the same. Take a look at real dynos from real colleagues who are real engineers. You see a water brake gifted from Ed Kalfus to James Allen both modeling engineering legends and a inertia dyno from a top boater in NAMBA Lohring Miller. You see these simulates different loads for different application. Ur grad didnt tell you a prop and unilog does not fit all? Are you here to talk about Christian Lucas, my editing, or a motor and testing it.

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Here's a real torque cradle Powercroco. Built buy a real engineer. An inclusive African American ME. Will you take the Hubertus award? I want you to see the various loading devices designed by a ME since you know about loads. Were all colleagues but we didn't see you at the IEEE party. Copy and paste it.
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Before you go let me show you the loading disk and what the inside of a water brake looks like from the real mechanical engineers because I know a medical doctor has not a clue really about any of this.That's why hobbyist use a prop and unilog because that's the best can do.They are no high level machinist or mechanic. Anyone can train to wrap wire.








You see It takes more than a sheet of paper with well known formulas to move my group. Maybe that is impressive there where you are. Copy and paste it.

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Als es mich noch interessiert hat (das ist schon einige Jahre her!) , habe ich mit diesem Zeug getestet.
Ist inzwischen alles verschenkt und verkauft, weil mich für mein Hobby nur noch interessieren muss, ob ein Motor den gewünschten Propeller mit der gewünschten Drehzahl bewegen kann, wenn er mit den entsprechenden Akkus befeuert und durch einen käuflichen Modellbausteller angesteuert wird.
Den Rest müssen die Piloten besorgen.
Das Ergebnis stellt mich zufrieden und meine Piloten auch.
Klick mal auf meine Signatur!




Den restlichen Kram überlasse ich schon seit Jahren CL, Dir und Deinen Fans.


Was ist daran eigentlich so schwer zu verstehen?
Es ist wirklich an der Zeit, dass Du Dir einen anderen Adressaten für Deine seitenlangen Monologe suchst.
Am besten natürlich auf Eurer Seite des Globus.



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Nah that's why there's no photos or archive of any of it. Scope shots of any harmonics you may post, but It doesn't exist. We all save photos from years back esp you. Everything is memorialized in an exclusive shrine.

"I don't know, how the situation is in uk, but scorpion sells sets for "self builders".
another way is, to byu a normal used one with good base just like kontronik, xnova, neu or plettenberg for small money and rewind / rebuild it.

what you see here is only old style - the "top guy" uses newer winding schemes to improved their results. you can find him and his ideas here:
https://www.helifreak.com/forumdisplay.php?f=291"


btw. we just had 2 british pilots here at our speed meetings. don't know, if they are still activ."
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How you leaving us ?
You are more than welcome to post the power factor and THD percentage of any antiquated DL wind. Until then there isnt much to argue about in your own words. These are the newer schemes you don't practice.

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Du kapierst es einfach nicht - es ist schlicht nicht mehr von interesse für mich.


Aber Deine Monologe lese ich gerne.
Die sind so herrlich überheblich und unhöflich. Da kann Dir keiner das Wasser reichen.
So kurzweilige Lektüre findet man heutzutage selten im WWW.


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No more time to argue Powercroco. This ranting isn't about motor loads or harmonic attenuation so I leave this worthless personal banter to you. I gotta get back to my "monolog" and winding motors for your fans.You're issue with Christian isn't my problem.No one here in the USA will find him inadequate as a motor designer, no matter how much you complain. Only the choir of 20 there will listen to whatever falsehoods you say about him. The world knows who he is so I'm sorry, but you are wasting your time.The modelers here very much love Christian and his better ideas.

The engineering graduates there should teach you about efficiency and how to calculate core and rotor losses. Interest for whatever reason is interest so if there was none you would not be here at every post.


........I know you like my motor....that's the gift of open sharing....
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A person could hardly test ABB's Sariful Islam multi layer work several years ago because that just came out recently from the University 25 miles from this pc last year. This is definitely more fake news as it doesn't publish till late 2018 !!! The Same thing for the University of Nottingham UK. Just to fact check your post to the forum ,that paper, I just shared with didn't release till late 2018 !!! So there is no data at any signature click on this work just proposed and confirmed in the last year years CLICK IT! and see. Ask yourself in all these pages here or on any exclusive site where you see a 3 or 4 layer wind? Ask yourself have you ever posted the supposed Gerling winds harmonic content on a scope? What you heard was it doesn't work because the end turns are more. This slight increase in resistance has nothing to do with the total loss reduction. That statement shows the lack of understanding of how the wind works. It was reported that it was limited to a 7/8 for optimal tuning. This is also not correct. The optimal turns ratio is at many levels esp with half turns Gerling brings.The optimal turns ratio has to be derived through the math associated with the work not what you think or can copy. Maybe the grads can help with the math. I have the math lab app on my kindle The 4 layer work Just released from Chinese engineers in august of 2019 so u clearly know there will be zero of this at your site then or now so why tell them something totally false? The work didn't even exist a few years ago where this comes from so please before you troll here and post more fake news in my thread to everyone you should check publishing dates. Chronologically what you posted is impossible. This tells anyone who cares you cant possibly have any record of data from this wind or work anywhere you did a few years ago. What is the real purpose u hit the like button obnoxiously 50 times? Are you trying to ruin the motors continuity of beautiful media flow by wasting an entire forum page copy and pasting legal edits on top of the clear absence of truth u post here.

1.Novel 24-slots14-poles fractional-slot concentrated winding topology with low-space harmonics for electrical machine
Article (PDF Available) in The Journal of Engineering · January 2019 with 160 Reads 
DOI: 10.1049/joe.2018
.8085

2.The Journal of EngineeringThe 9th International Conference on Power Electronics, Machines andDrives (PEMD 2018)Novel 24-slots14-poles fractional-slotconcentrated winding topology with low-space harmonics for electrical machineeISSN 2051-3305Received on 22nd June 2018Accepted on 27th July 2018doi: 10.1049/joe.2018.8085www.ietdl.orgShaohong Zhu1,2 , Tom Cox1,2, Zeyuan Xu1,2, Chris Gerada1,21Institute for Aerospace Technology, University of Nottingham, Nottingham, UK2Power Electronics, Machines and Control Research Group, University of Nottingham, Nottingham, UK E-mail: [email protected]

3.GENERAL CALCULATION OF WINDING FACTOR FOR
MULTI-PHASE/-LAYER ELECTRICAL MACHINES
IRRESPECTIVE OF POLES NUMBER
Daoud Ouamaraa,b,, Frédéric Dubasa, Sid Ali Randic,
Mohamed Nadjib Benallalb, Christophe Espanetd
University of Prague 2019! Dr. Daoud sent me the the anfractus tool personally with this paper do you have it? ChX has his copy.

4. A 4-layer Concentrated Winding for a Permanent Magnet Synchronous Motor
Hae-Joong Kim, Youn Hwan Kim, Jae-Won Moon Published AUGUST 2019!
Rotating Machinery Center / Korea Testing Certification
22 Heungan-daero 27beon-gil, Gunpo-si, Korea
[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]

5.The 12N10P paper is not even free or publicly available. The information I posted from it comes from an un named repository so please post your previous wye-delta work from it then please.

So you suggest all should waste there time at this direction and click on powerditto all day but they won't find any of this data or information there from years ago like I said. Please send them direct links to these impossible 2018-2019 harmonic projects from years ago so they are clear to look in the right place. If you did it years ago you were certainly a pioneer so when is the Hubertus award ceremony ? Are ChX and I invited to this event that gives post docs $300,000 to further develop their submitted cutting edge research? A minuscule fraction of this kind of capitol takes 1st in any speed competition anywhere! You can purchase as many special cofe plates as you'd like with all that money, and you wont need to submit intellectual property of others like Gerlings split tooth to hobby king. That's just something no engineer in the free western network does.

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Wovon schreibst Du?
Wer will den Kram ausprobiert haben?

Ich jedenfalls nicht. Ausser Gerling. Aber da hast Du ja schon ausführlichst festgestellt dass, das eh nur falsch war. Es ist mir nicht wichtig genug, dass ich Dir da widersprechen wollte. Bleib bei Deiner Meinung.

Ansonsten ist das Ganze - wie Helmut Schenk dem Peter schon vor 3 Jahren geschrieben hat, das herumdoktern an für den Modellbau völlig irrelevanten Prozenten von Prozenten.

Hast Du schonmal was von ganzheitlicher Betrrachtung gehört?


An einem Arbeitspunkt, wo die Verluste bis auf 1-2 Wirkungsgrad% nur noch Kupferverluste sind, bringt das für unsere Speedflugmodelle nichts.
Du kannst jederzeit gerne das Gegenteil beweisen, das aber bitte in der Praxis indem Du uns unter FAI-Regeln in der Messstrecke schlägst.

Mal was anderes:

Was ist eigentlich aus Deinen ganzen tollen neuen SPS Statorschnitten geworden, aus Deinen Flusssperren und aus dem Schlangenöl? Ich habe da noch einen Haufen hübsche Bildchen gespeichert, über die Deine Profis mit Sicherheit lauthals lachen würden.

Seit drei Jahren bringst Du nix zustande, ausser theoretischen Ergüssen in maximal unhöflicher Form, denen sowieso keiner folgen mag und unvollendeten Wicklungen, die zudem noch unordentlich aussehen.
Du bezichtigst jedermann, der Deine Ansichten nicht teilt, der offenkundigen Dummheit.

Warum Du das hier in diesem Forum ungestraft darfst, kann sicher keiner erklären.

Immerhin bist Du ja als weltweit Einziger Wickler in der Lage mit einfachem unverpressten Runddraht 60% Füllgrad zu erreichen, wo schon theoretisch nur 56% gehen, wie Christian gepostet hat.

Aber wahrscheinlich hast Du eine andere Mathematik als alle anderen.


Nun

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Excuse me sir my fill is > 60%. Beautiful orthocyclic coils give you that when the right American Wire Gauge is selected. Reducing winding losses from the conventional DL is not a goal here. You should read closer this work you already did.You pull the legs of the forum as usual. Powerditto has no data on any of this. Or anything harmonically posted about Gerlings proposal either. Write him this PHD in electronics and tell him It doesn't work. And you clearly do not read deeply about the art of winding. You don't need to press wire to achieve 60% fill. Since you use transitional wires of course you cannot understand. I don't wind your way remember. Modisc also packs more copper! Your big mono wire journeys are no benchmark for fill especially in this motor. 3 winds of 1.8...mm we already did and its way less fill and is all that will fit. What Christian shows was a general fill rule for a low paid marginal winding personnel with bundle in hand wild winding but I'M EXCEPTIONAL with the single coil servo wind. You see you never came straight out the motor with the phases. You've never done this or contemplated an intelligent bus for such a machine.
Helmut and Peter have nothing to do with my hands or ability. Currently they wind nothing and have nothing here.

Make sure you copy all the edits you will perform now I see you've already begun

Christian send his blessings.

" Hi Hugh,
I have no EE degree . I was educated by Jesuite Padres. Because of my high intelligence degree I had the freedom to study everything in Munich with the Padres gave me the pass to visit mechanical engineering, chemical and electric . All mix together. When I worked for companies I had the freedom to go every where to use the labs to get best results. So at the end I have and been involved in 35 patents. If you like ask Okon how many patents he has.He has nothing invented , he only copy from other . And then end this discussion.Do your way and do not look what this man is doing. Tell him that you know that he is reading about you innovative work as you know that he is always looking what he can next copy, the only thing he can do. No self thinking. For real it doesnˋt interest me what he is doing.'


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And then how could it be since our motors runs faster they actually have more loss respectively .The wind helps the hobbyist who run at higher fundamental frequencies more.I don't have to depend on Helmuts at a glance declarations for intelligent thinking. Why didn't he tell you ALL how to use a scope until I showed up. He might be an authority for you but there is a problem about the comparative fundamental frequencies of motors running at 10K and motors running at 30K. What side you think hobbyist generally are closer to? And at your specific loaded rpms your are right in the tested areas of operations for many of these PROVEN test with a room full of more accomplished Helmuts.

That's just more bs as we know by the math the harmonics are amplified at speed and the loss is a product of frequency squared. Is Helmuts math different and when did he wind these new machines? I doubt he can get much more than 50% fill. He is not me plain and simple. Hes never concurred any technical rant you have. He had to tell you the scope is valid...... I had to show you how to calculate Kw free of Peters vector math.

But Helmut also tells you the Wright brothers weren't first in flight. Go figure....
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Ask him does this vector math work with the open ended coils 24N22P. Ill work with Dr. Kanellis on the SVC, and SRM drives. What will Helmut help you develop? Have him explain how the airplane wouldn't benefit from fault tolerance, or still high efficiency with blown phases. But you are only concerned with what's available off the shelf what can I really say to you about innovation? I make from scratch $2000 dollar scale boats and many electronic widgets. A toroid based scope current clamp for example or did you "like" the process of making the Rogowski coil? You ever innovate that way? Did you know what it was for? I make one for your eyes and show you how to use it to determine power factor. Then the block comes. How basic is that? So we know this work never exist anywhere on your site. If it did your group would have no reason to be senselessly arguing about measuring PF if they have any electrical experience. No one has shown you but me. The entire engineering world knows these diagnostic facts from fiction. What you have there with the limited 20 hecklers is a exclusive land of ignorance. I do not need ChX to calibrate or commission my dyne meters for me.I can do it myself. Since you never looked at the harmonics you cannot possibly have any real idea if you completed the wind successfully to attenuate slot and space harmonics. Does a large motor with a lower fundamental lose any more respectively than a small motor with a high fundamental? Is such an eye test appropriate here? I don't think so, and I wouldn't but you can step out on that limb and ask Helmut. At the same size we already know what rings true.

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We can see from the chart here that once again another correction report is needed for the persons post.With the correct conductor selection Orthocyclic lays are easily able to achieve greater than 60% fill with their theory at 90%. Based on the room left and the conductors that will be added we will be fairly close to theory and definitely greater than 60%. We've done the math already. Everyone looking can see the fill projections for an orthocyclic lay of conductors slightly under a mm. And that I'm already near 50% with just the sl deltas.

"Engineers try to achieve as high fill factors as possible to make the coil winding process as efficient as it can be. Though engineers generally calculate a theoretical fill factor of .91 for orthocyclic winding, the wire insulation means that, in practice, the fill factor is lower."
~sciencing~

"Since an orthocyclically wound coil with at least 300° of the circumference of winding layers has the tightest circle package of the wire cross-sections. This winding method reaches the highest fill factor and is the best way to fill the available winding cross-section with round wires. Square coils are seen as orthocyclically wound when the winding and layer jump occur only on one of the sides of the winding cross-section. In theory, a geometric fill factor of 0.91 will be reached. In practice, however, the value cannot be reached because there exists a winding jump and layer jump area and the wire insulation is not taken into account."
~coil winding technology~


.......................................
.....................................Post that no fill above 56% is possible on this machine is def fake news
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"Wild winding
Also known as jumble winding, with this type of winding structure only poor fill factors can be achieved. The random wire placement leads to a wider distribution of resulting wire length on the coil body and consequently a wider range of electric coil resistances. Despite its disadvantages, it is common in mass production. It is characterized by low demands for machinery and operator and can be wound with very high speeds. Wild windings are mostly applied in contactor- and relay coils, small transformers, Ignition coils, small electrical motors, and generally devices with relatively small wire gauges up to 0.05 mm. Achieved fill factors with the use of round wires are about 73% to 80% and are lower compared to orthocyclic winding with 90%."
~winding coil tech~

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All die gut geskripteten Ausreden in der Welt erklären nicht Ihre Diskrepanz zwischen Reden und Handeln. Wind etwas! Es ist nun fast ein Monat her und nichts wird getan als diese langwierigen Leitartikel, die für die Praxis keinen Sinn ergeben. Es würde nie eine kluge Ausrede geben, sich voll und ganz auf die Arbeit eines anderen zu verlassen Kunzke! Das heißt Lazy! Ohne es auf Ihrer spezifischen Anwendung zu testen, wissen Sie nichts, was Sie von der Hintergrundarbeit annehmen können. Was Sie dort angegeben haben, ist eine sehr aufwändige Ausrede, deren Zusammenstellung mehr Zeit in Anspruch nahm als das Umwickeln des Kerns. Alle Ihre Meinungen über das, was Sie tun könnten, sind unbegründet. Forscher messen ihre eigene Hypothese und Sie haben in letzter Zeit eine Menge davon angegeben. Wenn Sie tatsächlich jemanden haben, der talentiert genug ist, um die richtigen Maßnahmen zu ergreifen, braucht er den Prüfling! In diesem Fall Wenn seine 4 Schichten jetzt worauf warten wir noch? Niemand kann nichts messen. Geben Sie Ihrem Ehepartner nicht die Schuld, dass Sie nicht aktiv sind. Es ist die Tastatur, mit der man endlos tanzt ... Keine lange Antwort, nachdem man das Undenkbare hier gelesen hat, wird auch den Motor nicht umhüllen. Die Leitartikel sind meistens falsch und ziemlich langweilig inmitten eines Hobby-Motor-Forums. Ich werde keine Zeit mehr damit verschwenden. Wickeln Sie etwas ein. Du hast einen netten Thread mit netten Motoren gestartet. Die Leute beobachten jetzt, also beginnt die eigentliche Arbeit, auf der du sprichst? Ratet mal, was ist unsinniger, als zu versuchen, meine Effizienzzahlen zu erreichen? Der Null-Wirkungsgrad eines reinen Schreibmaschinenmotors, der nicht läuft. Ihre Sorge ist nicht Powercroco oder was ich tue, ist was Sebastian tun wird? Stellen Sie sicher, dass dies Ihre Nummer 1 ist und der einzige wirkliche Ort, an dem Sie etwas davon haben.Betrachte es als ein Gildenstreit zwischen uns, in dem du noch keinen Platz verdient hast. Sie sehen, Ralph hat schnell Bedenken wegen meiner Kupferfüllung. Er weiß, warum er sich Sorgen machen sollte, Sie nicht. Dies kommt aus seiner realen Erfahrung. Das kannst du keinem Mann nehmen, auch ihm nicht. Bis du etwas tust, um überhaupt darüber nachzudenken, was du sagst, ist es mit Sicherheit ein Wunschtraum. Seine umgekehrte Psychologie möchte mehr über das Ferrofluid seiner Freunde wissen, wenn sie echte Ingenieure sind. Sie müssten über die Patente lachen, die bereits über die Fähigkeit des Mediums bestehen, die Flussbeziehungen zu kühlen und zu verbessern. Er hat nicht das Know-how, um es zum Spalt zu isolieren oder eine interne Kühlmanschette laufen zu lassen. Das ist so einfach zu begreifen, wenn diese "Absolventen" nicht langsam sind. Dies sind einige der Gründe, warum ChX dort auf meiner sehr kurzen Liste relevanter Plakate steht. Nur einige Leute haben wirklich kreatives Denken. Der Rest der begrenzten Menge, in der Sie sich befinden, sind offensichtlich Betrüger. Sie sehen seine Diskussionsaktivität dort und Sie sehen, dass sie nach seiner Antwort nicht begrüßt wurden.

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Na, dann hast Du ja mal wieder einen Lügner erwischt:


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Die Blechsteckspulen von MM haben einen Füllfaktor von über 92% . das ist ein gewaltiger Unterschied zu den Drahtspulen die um die 50 % liegen bei sehr sauberer Wicklung.
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Erstens hat auch wenn der Ralph oder der Holle einen Motor sauber wickelt er einfach nur die maximal 53% Füllfaktor da beide immer nur mit Runden Drähten wickeln und zweitens hat der Lehner 75% Füllfaktor was schon eine erhebliche Steigerung
Lehner muss seine Spulen verpressen um nichtmal das zu erreichen, was du mal eben mit einer unsauberen Wicklung (wie Du sie gerade auf dem 24N -Neumotor ausgeführt hast) aus dem Handgelenk schüttelst. Und diese krumm liegenden Drähte haben so garnichts mit einer "orthozyklischen" Wicklung gemein - ausser evtl. in Deinen Träumen.


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Correct I am, And hes here again speaking with no understanding that he addresses your geometry and conductors not mine. We see what the field clearly says and that Lehner is still on your mind. Maybe he speaks to your personal abilities youd have to ask him. Do you see the copyright here? I'm not Holle or you with your serial jumps and I'm already at 50

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This is certainly not the product of any creative thinking there. The cooling that "doesn't work"
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