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Old 04-25-2019, 06:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Help with flips?

Ok so Iíve been flying my k110 for 4 months now and I just learned forward flips. So at first I was doing them very sloppy but by the end of the day I had them down pretty clean.

So now for some reason when Iíve been practicing flips Iím seeming to be losing a lot of altitude most of the time but sometimes it get a clean flip with losing almost no altitude. So my question is what am I doing wrong that I keep losing so much altitude?
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Old 04-25-2019, 06:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Collective control. You need to move it up and down during different parts of the flip to keep the heli centered and not moving around. It's a feel thing and hard to explain when. Just takes practice.
Think of this and you'll get it:

With a heli in hover you are at mid stick or slightly above. As you apply forward elevator and the heli becomes perpendicular to the ground, which way is the rotor trying to pull the heli now? Forward, traveling parallel to the ground with the heli perpendicular to the ground.

So at this point you want to have already started moving the collective to middle or slightly negative to counter any movement.

Now as the heli is still in a flip it is going to end up upside down.

At this point you want to have collective in the middle again as you end upside down. Again as in upright hover, it may need middle collective or slight negative depending on your setup so that the heli does not drive itself into the ground while inverted for this brief moment. Call it catching the heli and this all depends how clean you were at the last step of stick input.

So heli is still flipping.

Should be coming out of inverted now to perpendicular with the ground. Again better have the collective in the right spot or it will start moving parrlelel to the ground.

Finally you get back to upright and may need a tad of positive collective to catch the heli in spot or just middle collective depending on how clean you came out of perpendicular and your hover stick position setup.

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Old 04-25-2019, 07:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks a bunch thickfog that makes since so basically my timing is off. I think Iím not dropping positive pitch quick enough sometimes because when Iím going into inverted im having to give it full negative pitch and it seems like itís bogging down and still losing altitude.

Timing is Something Iím going to have to work on thank you
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Old 04-26-2019, 07:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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We all have to work on timing!
It's 99% of flying these beasts. Oh and coordinating so many things at once. But that has to be more than 1%.

Don't get discouraged or frustrated. This is perfectly normal. It can go fast for some or take months to years. It's why we love helis. Not everyone can fly them and just can just grab a tx and start flying right away. It's quite a challenge.
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