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Old 05-25-2019, 11:45 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Just to double check, I just flew a pack in my basement just now and what you see is the tail moving slightly left or right in response to me smacking the collective stick up and down. The tail holds rock solid when climbing and only moves slightly when I back off and descend with quick with negative pitch. The belt tension seems good from the factory after rechecking. Tomorrow I am going to try and put a few packs through it with some actual flight and I’ll try some more mild 3D.
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Old 05-26-2019, 03:42 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Well thats quite some tail wag/kicking in the video..actually it seems tail wags on the end of every manouver. Maybe it needs a higher D-gain
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Old 05-26-2019, 11:13 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I turned the gains up to 90.5 and the tail kick is pretty much gone. I saw one of CoeShow's videos where he swapped out the tail servo horn (which comes chopped off from the factory) with a full length version and he was able to turn the tail gains down and get some better tail authority. I may try this later today.

UPDATE: I added the standard size servo horn from a DS76T I had and I used the 3rd hole instead of the 2nd which came stock from Blade. What a difference! The tail held like a rock and I was able to dial down the gyro gain to the factory setting of 75%. Here is a short video of the test I performed after changing the servo horn. Sorry but my hat cam was facing a little low today so some of the video is out of range!

Blade Fusion 180 - 3D Flight at the Park (3 min 8 sec)
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Old 05-27-2019, 10:18 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Is the Fusion 180 now the smallest belted CP heli currently in production?
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Old 05-27-2019, 10:24 PM   #65 (permalink)
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If it's that much better I'm surprised Horizon Hobby's pilots didn't try hole #3.
Seems like something you'd experiment with on a new heli design.

I've only seen your videos from your backyard. And now this! I didn't know your backyard has a baseball field attached to it.

I struggle with the same vertical framing issue on my dedicated sports cam. I'm using a 140 degree FOV and I still can't get it right. Earlier today I did 4 packs on my Oxy 2 and had to trash all the videos because all the moves were too high. I think I need to go to the max 170 degrees to give myself some wiggle room.

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I turned the gains up to 90.5 and the tail kick is pretty much gone. I saw one of CoeShow's videos where he swapped out the tail servo horn (which comes chopped off from the factory) with a full length version and he was able to turn the tail gains down and get some better tail authority. I may try this later today.

UPDATE: I added the standard size servo horn from a DS76T I had and I used the 3rd hole instead of the 2nd which came stock from Blade. What a difference! The tail held like a rock and I was able to dial down the gyro gain to the factory setting of 75%. Here is a short video of the test I performed after changing the servo horn. Sorry but my hat cam was facing a little low today so some of the video is out of range!

https://youtu.be/Jq2bcztf1ys
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Is the Fusion 180 now the smallest belted CP heli currently in production?
Yes it is.
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Old 05-28-2019, 01:05 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Be careful with that servo, the increased torque on it will make it die sooner than its already short life.
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Old 05-28-2019, 01:39 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Wasn't v120d05 the smallest?
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Be careful with that servo, the increased torque on it will make it die sooner than its already short life.
I guess time will tell.
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Old 06-08-2019, 02:11 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Wasn't v120d05 the smallest?
Yes you are correct, it is 7.7 cm shorter than the fusion 180. I stand corrected.
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Old 06-08-2019, 05:32 PM   #71 (permalink)
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For the record after banging this thing for 20 flights or so, It is hands down the best one to date and its flying is amazing. Flight time is shocking and its power in mode 2 is spot on, no blow outs and it really flys perfect.

CHANGE the gain to 100 on all modes though and its solid.

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Old 06-09-2019, 08:15 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Yes you are correct, it is 7.7 cm shorter than the fusion 180. I stand corrected.


The question was about the smallest currently produced belt heli. Pretty sure the walkera isn’t currently produced.


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Old 06-10-2019, 09:20 PM   #73 (permalink)
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so gents, what's the verdict on this lil gal? I sure like the 4S and the belt...chris I saw your vid, nice

anybody with a 180cfx, how's she compare? HH is not providing a battery, so to get airborne, looks like about $265 outta pocket...worth it?
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Old 06-10-2019, 11:20 PM   #74 (permalink)
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I can say that so far it has been a great little heli. It even crashes well! I had a few mishaps over tall grass and I was able to dust it off and keep flying. I planted it into the ground hard during backward hurricanes and the only thing that “broke” was a main blade grip. I changed out the spindle and main shaft to be on the safe side because it was a hard crash but after that it flies like new.

On a side note, changing the main gear and shaft were pretty simple and it only took about 5 minutes or so.
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Old 06-11-2019, 05:08 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Hi Chris, would you be willing to post the dimensions (LxWxH) of the battery you're using in your Fusion 180? I posted this question over at the 180CFX forum, but I don't know if it'll get much response.

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Hi Chris, would you be willing to post the dimensions (LxWxH) of the battery you're using in your Fusion 180? I posted this question over at the 180CFX forum, but I don't know if it'll get much response.

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Im using the recommended Spektrum 450mah 50C batteries. They are 2x1x1 inches and weigh 55g.
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Im using the recommended Spektrum 450mah 50C batteries. They are 2x1x1 inches and weigh 55g.
Thanks a bunch!!!

So it's about 50 mm x 25 mm-square -- any additional wiggle room under the canopy? The Tattu packs I'm thinking about are roughly 27 mm in height. Just trying to estimate whether they'll fit.
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I can say that so far it has been a great little heli. It even crashes well! I had a few mishaps over tall grass and I was able to dust it off and keep flying. I planted it into the ground hard during backward hurricanes and the only thing that “broke” was a main blade grip. I changed out the spindle and main shaft to be on the safe side because it was a hard crash but after that it flies like new.

On a side note, changing the main gear and shaft were pretty simple and it only took about 5 minutes or so.
cool...so, did you (or anyone) have the 180cfx, to compare performance between the two?

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Old 06-12-2019, 01:15 AM   #79 (permalink)
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I maidened my modified Fusion 180 today. It runs on 3S with a 180CFX motor, has a micro Brain controller and a 760Hz GDW tail servo. I had to use another tail servo because the stock servo was DOA. I can sense it is going to be as bad as the old 180CFX tail servo.

There was ample power with the 3S setup. Although I had a use a 100% flat curve as 75% was clearly not enough. I fly an Oxy2 with 1911 motor and an Oxy3 on 6S and so I am used to high power setups. I cannot comment so much on the flight characteristics as the heli needs dialing in. I was getting quite a lot of cyclic shakes and tail wags.

I can comment though that the heli looks more robust than the 180CFX.

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Thanks a bunch!!!

So it's about 50 mm x 25 mm-square -- any additional wiggle room under the canopy? The Tattu packs I'm thinking about are roughly 27 mm in height. Just trying to estimate whether they'll fit.
Have a look at this thread here:

https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=833335

Someone is using the Tattu battery.
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