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Old 07-11-2008, 11:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OK my next project is this heli!
Special thanks to Compass and KBDD for asking me to do this build and I am looking forward to it!. So far it looks like a great heli.

So lets get started!

First up!
Video Link ->What's in the box!! (20 Megs)

Manual and Build Overview
Video Link ->Build Overview (25 Megs)

On with the build! Sorry for the delay!

Video Link ->CCPM Servo Installation (45 Megs)

Video Link ->Servo Wheels and Setup with Radio (58 Megs)

Video Link ->Servo Linkage Setup (62 Megs)

Video Link ->Main Gear and Main Shaft install (26 Megs)

Video Link ->Head and Grip Assembly (52 Megs)

Video Link ->Seesaw and Flybar Assemebly (50 Megs)

Video Link ->Swashplate and Washout Assembly (36 Megs)

Video Link ->Head Linkage Setup (56 Megs)

Sorry for the delay folks... IRCHA was well worth it for me! Anyway getting started back up.

Video Link ->Electronics placement (42 Megs)

Video Link ->Compass ESC setup (40 Megs)

Video Link ->Tail Rotor Assembly (34 megs)

Video Link ->Tail Belt and Boom Install (42 Megs)

Video Link ->Tails Servo and Gyro Setup (40 Megs)

Final video until flying
Video Link ->Boom Supports and Landing Gear (26 Megs)

Thats it on the builds folks! I do have to say this was the EASIEST Heli I have ever built!

Maiden Flight Report!

OK this REALLY was only my second flight with this heli.... Compass asked me to build this with basic components and I expected to be YAWN... Ho hum.....
Well NO BS.. I was seriously surprised how well this flew on low end analog servos. Makes me think how much we all chase the TOP stuff a little. YES I could feel they were not digitals based on centering after an input BUT seriously I walked away surprised. With some good digitals this heli is going to be VERY precise and I like to fly precise! But for folks starting out... well it does work using cheaper servos in a way I never believed could be true.. Seriously folks I was surprised!

Here is the video:
Video Link ->Maiden FLight Report (66 Megs)

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Old 07-12-2008, 12:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Bob,

Is the fin superfluous? Hmmm. With a handle of Finless is guess it is.
Very punny.
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Old 07-12-2008, 05:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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first link is broken?
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Old 07-12-2008, 10:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
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First link works fine for me!

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seems to be working now
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Old 07-12-2008, 03:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Show us The Flybarless Head

Bob, Are you going to get the heli flying with the Flybar setup then Change her over or are you going flybarless right away? Those Servos Might have a Hard time keeping Up to the SK360?
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nice vids dood.. as useual.

bob i know you wanted to use lower end gear but seriously does anybody use anything less than cheap digis like futaba 3152?

non-digis are ok on mechancial mix but ime CCPM needs something a little better.

sorry, you just cant win can you :-)

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Old 07-12-2008, 03:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
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nice vids dood.. as useual.

bob i know you wanted to use lower end gear but seriously does anybody use anything less than cheap digis like futaba 3152?

non-digis are ok on mechancial mix but ime CCPM needs something a little better.

sorry, you just cant win can you :-)

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Bob is using what was sent to him by Compass. Thank you though Ade for pointing that out. I also like you would be using a couple of steps up and only have to buy once.
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Old 07-12-2008, 06:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
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hi

It's nice to see some straightforward stuff and servos that are not high end.
Sometimes simple is the best and am looking forward to the build videos

Thanks

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Old 07-12-2008, 07:38 PM   #10 (permalink)
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thanks will, its not like 3152 are much more money either... perform 10x better tho.

wonder if it was compass or KBDD?

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Thanks Bob for his build videos,
a lot of European pilots are waiting for it because they appreciate the 600E and the way it fly’s. Yes a lot of guy’s want to know if a high performance helicopter is usable with lower range/price servos; there is a real interest in this answer.
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:58 AM   #12 (permalink)
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i have flown a few CCPM helis with these or similarly analogue servos. just pain orrible, model doesnt go where you point it, controls feel soggy and in accurate.

please bob dont put those into it. give kbdd a ring and get some 3152 they still 1/3 the price of the "high end" stuff. its one thing using budge gear but the ones you have just arent suitable, whats the point in that?

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Well..... I will let KBDD know the concerns on this but they wanted me to try it so I am going to try it! If they suck I will let ya know. All this talk MAKES me want to try them anyway now to see for myself

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Their nice heli... I have the 6S version. I had some HS-5625mg's I threw in it to get it up... Cheep dig. servo but they work pretty good. I do plan on replacing them with some 8717's or 9452's soon.
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if you wanted to be a bit anal you could do a few flights with the 589s, then some 3152s then 9255 and BLS 351 or JR equiv..

knowing JR the 589 probably use the same gearset as some of the higher end servos so strength probably wont be an issue. it will fly it will just feel like you have servo horns made of rubber.

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it will fly it will just feel like you have servo horns made of rubber.
That would suck.
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I believe you guys honestly I do...

BUT Compass WANTS me to try it! If it sucks well then they should not have asked me to try it and sent better sh*t.... Honestly I will support the ask to build with cheap servos! If it doesn't work! Well then they asked the wrong person to try it as I will certainly let YOU ALL KNOW my opinion with 100% honesty!!!

NO ONE that asks me or sponsors me for a video is immune to my end opinion! I ain't a COP OUT! Ask RC Tech, Gaui, or others that got my REAL opinion that in the end they did not like!
The truth hurts and I do NOT give up my scruples for helis, money or anything... Honestly I do this for you all and no matter the politics I try my best to stay that way! "To let users here on Helifreak build a heli and to a little extent know how I like it"

BUT this COULD effect the outcome of my total eval of the model as sorry... I will not upgrade the servos myself unless I like the model!!!!!
If I do upgrade the servos myself, I myself will decide "if I want" to update you all with reports or videos (but you all know me.. if I do upgrade myself I will update you all anyway as that is the truth)... BUT... that will be "my decision" based on if I want to spend the money and possibly you all asking me to upgrade....... In the end they get to live with the choice they made....... Good or Bad! They want me to use these servos? So be it... I will give you all the outcome. Later if "I personally" decide to upgrade the servos it will be ONLY because I want to use and fly the model!

Sound good guys? In the end I DO this stuff for you all so I respect your opinions and asks!

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Bob is just doing what they told him to do. And if you think about it. Compass and KBDD must be pretty confident to give Bob the chance to try it because they know that Bob will say what he thinks.

I don't see a problem here. Also, like Bob said in the video. People come to him asking why he is useing expensive electronics because they have to go out and buy top of the range stuff.

Have fun with the build Bob

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i think showing the difference it can make on a model on what servos you put in it is just as important as proving it will fly.

as anybody that has been through the cheap servo route will tell you its well worth the investment but you are the heli info god its your duty to show the difference... but maybe thats another video.

maybe you could hang weights off the servo horns and show how much they offset and compare different makes. then fit a few different ones into helis and translate that into how the model actually feels in the sky.

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Thanks Bob !!!!
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