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Old 06-23-2021, 07:05 AM   #21 (permalink)
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You're the guy that said Oxy wouldn't have a 700 any time soon. Glad you were wrong.
All i recall saying was it appeared to be all speculation because there had been no official announcement and it seemed to me very unlikely that one would be available this year (this was in the context of someone weighing up buying options for an immanent purchase).

I still think my gut feeling was right and we wont see one on the shelves this year. What makes you think i was wrong?

This is the thread I believe you were thinking of: https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=888911
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Old 06-23-2021, 07:40 AM   #22 (permalink)
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All i recall saying was it appeared to be all speculation because there had been no official announcement and it seemed to me very unlikely that one would be available this year (this was in the context of someone weighing up buying options for an immanent purchase).

I still think my gut feeling was right and we wont see one on the shelves this year. What makes you think i was wrong?

This is the thread I believe you were thinking of: https://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=888911
I definitely remember where it was said and in which context. You're not very good at your "gut" feelings, thankfully. It's only June and I'm optimistic.
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Old 06-23-2021, 10:18 AM   #23 (permalink)
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You're not very good at your "gut" feelings, thankfully. It's only June and I'm optimistic.
Only time will tell if I was good at 'gut feeling'. If the Oxy 700 ends up on the shelves before the end of this year I will be happy to admit that my gut was wrong. Until then no one knows, I'm not wrong yet
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Old 07-02-2021, 08:50 PM   #24 (permalink)
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My wish: keep the number nomenclature, love it!

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They are naming the first of two Flash... Speculation is this is a stretched Oxy 5 MEG.

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I have a suspicion that the guy who was in charge of naming SAB's new helis has a new job.
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Speculation is this is a stretched Oxy 5 MEG.
yeah, that's what I thought as soon as i saw the image in the post. the frame appears to be identical to an Oxy 5.
Personally I think this is a good move. The OXY 5 frame seems very rigid and the upgraded 'HF' sprag clutch should be more than strong enough to take a 700 power system. A genuinely lightweight 700 will be something a bit different, vs. all the others that claim light weight but dont deliver.
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Not a big fan of the name myself, but I guess I really don't care what they call it. Curious what the name of the other will be? RSR, lol?
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I just saw it on Facebook...
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Old 07-03-2021, 04:23 PM   #30 (permalink)
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yeah, that's what I thought as soon as i saw the image in the post. the frame appears to be identical to an Oxy 5.
Personally I think this is a good move. The OXY 5 frame seems very rigid and the upgraded 'HF' sprag clutch should be more than strong enough to take a 700 power system. A genuinely lightweight 700 will be something a bit different, vs. all the others that claim light weight but dont deliver.

Mikado has had this concept awhile with the Logo 690SX, basically has always been a stretched 600.



None less interested to see what these models finish up like, I am looking to a full on smack, everything type heli so whatever Oxys heavier more robust one is the one I will be most interested in.
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Mikado has had this concept awhile with the Logo 690SX, basically has always been a stretched 600.
yeah, the 690 was the heli i thought of too. The Logo 690 airframe too started life as a 500 or 550 if I'm not mistaken. If you believe the stats OXY might have made their heli even lighter and hopefully also capable of taking higher power setups.. 'best of both worlds'.

Lets wait and see.
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Old 07-04-2021, 01:58 PM   #32 (permalink)
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More info about the Flash from Timo Wendtland, Oxy Team Pilot who posted this in rc-heli-de: https://www.rc-heli.de/board/showpos...8&postcount=12


Hi,

since I've been flying a Flash prototype for a while, some information:

- rotor head - chassis - gearbox is mostly new to cope with the higher loads.
- The rear slightly revised
- the hood is new.

There are also some parts of the Oxy 5 that have proven themselves there.

So the current status is that it holds even with a 4530 power setup at 2300 rpm + and still remains under 5kg with 12s 5000 65c batteries.

A power setup like this is actually only intended for testing and is way too much of a good thing.
In the end I would like to use a small 4035 with 12s 4500 max.Sheets

are currently 700/115 max feasible.

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Old 07-04-2021, 02:03 PM   #33 (permalink)
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From AaronHeli also another Oxy Team pilot in response to queries at the German forums:


The rotor shaft is 10mm and of course standard servos fit. The FLASH is not a “mega stretch” of an OXY 5, as was already assumed here, but a full-fledged 700 with some parts of the OXY 5.

Any common 700 setup can be implemented as a setup.
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10mm mainshaft very strongly implies if not categorically proves that the drivetrain is 'Oxy 5 derived'. Almost all 700 helis today use between 12mm and 15mm main shafts. The only exception that I can think of is (by spooky coincidence) the Logo 690.

I dont see any need to get defensive about this being a heli based on the Oxy5, seems like a perfectly sensible approach to me.
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10mm mainshaft very strongly implies if not categorically proves that the drivetrain is 'Oxy 5 derived'.
Was there anyone arguing this point? I don't really think it matters much. Certainly, not to me or anyone who actually flies Oxy and wants a 700.
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Old 07-05-2021, 08:46 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I would definitely be interested in a 700 which shares some component and also its design from the Oxy 5. Having a 10mm main shaft is fine by me... I am still beating on my 7HVU with a 10mm shaft, which weighs 12.3 lbs, powered by a Scorpion 4525 520 with 700mm blades.

If the Flash can get that weight down to 11 - 11.5 lbs with the same components, I will be happy to move the electronics over from my 7HVU to the Flash.
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Was there anyone arguing this point? I don't really think it matters much. Certainly, not to me or anyone who actually flies Oxy and wants a 700.
The team pilots quoted in the posts preceding mine to which I was replying certainly seemed to be downplaying the Oxy 5 heritage.. no?
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The team pilots quoted in the posts preceding mine to which I was replying certainly seemed to be downplaying the Oxy 5 heritage.. no?

I think we might be reading too much regarding individual comments from the team pilots... They probably are addressing some comments in that thread at the German forums and also here at HF that mentions that the Oxy Flash appears to be designed more for "slow headspeed and mild 3D" (I am quoting ddhuans here). They seem to be implying that the Flash can definitely handle higher headspeeds and more than just mild 3D. We will hopefully see more proof of this after the formal unveiling.
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Pretty exciting stuff really. Like all have said soon enough by Ircha we will see them both, be it in final form or not. Living way up north here hoping this is something they have finalized and actually making now. Really do not want to be waiting to build one in 2022 etc...


Guess have to be patient, it is hard though!
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Old 07-06-2021, 03:17 PM   #40 (permalink)
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