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Old 05-14-2021, 06:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So i have been using neXt heli sim and didn't like the way it felt on loops/figure 8's/forward momentam movements. I decided to try AccuRC, but it almost seems too easy??

I am able to do moves almost as if they were assisted, i have it set for 3D and ramped up the collective on the heli from 53->60 on both ends. Also set the heads-speed of the 700's to around ~2000.

Is there some kind of flying assist i am missing? I am flying 10x better than I do in real life with this sim.


edit: worth mentioning I am doing this on a mac (sadly) i am not sure if the game engine/physics are different from windows 10. I'd hope not, but if so that would be sad.
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Old 05-15-2021, 04:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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are you using fast cyclics on the sim than you are in the real world? That can make it feel easier.

AccuRC physics are far more complex and complete than other simulators
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Old 05-16-2021, 05:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey all,

So i have been using neXt heli sim and didn't like the way it felt on loops/figure 8's/forward momentam movements. I decided to try AccuRC, but it almost seems too easy??
Too easy? I find AccuRC slightly harder than RL. I think mainly because it is 2D and, unless the ground is in view I'm not sure exactly of the orientation of the heli. That and it is really easy accidentally get a 700 going to fast in forward flight where in RL they are pretty slow unless you want them to go fast. All that said, I've not used NeXt before.

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edit: worth mentioning I am doing this on a mac (sadly) i am not sure if the game engine/physics are different from windows 10. I'd hope not, but if so that would be sad.
Why sadly? Macs are AWESOME!
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Why sadly? Macs are AWESOME!
If you like getting a gazillion support requests from people expecting AccuRC to run in on Ultra settings and full resolution on their 4K retina screens on completely underpowered Intel integrated graphics because "iT's A mAc, It HaS tO wOrK", then yes, Macs are awesome.
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If you like getting a gazillion support requests from people expecting AccuRC to run in on Ultra settings and full resolution on their 4K retina screens on completely underpowered Intel integrated graphics because "iT's A mAc, It HaS tO wOrK", then yes, Macs are awesome.
Thats a people problem - not a mac problem
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are you using fast cyclics on the sim than you are in the real world? That can make it feel easier.

AccuRC physics are far more complex and complete than other simulators
I'd say similar to real life setup, maybe i need to add some wind/other unknown dynamics and try it out.

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Too easy? I find AccuRC slightly harder than RL. I think mainly because it is 2D and, unless the ground is in view I'm not sure exactly of the orientation of the heli. That and it is really easy accidentally get a 700 going to fast in forward flight where in RL they are pretty slow unless you want them to go fast. All that said, I've not used NeXt before.



Why sadly? Macs are AWESOME!
2012 macbook pro, upgraded SSD and RAM so the graphics card is screaming when i do ACCURC but it still runs

I noticed the tail graphic glitches/wags on some of the heli's weirdly not a huge deal
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2012 macbook pro, upgraded SSD and RAM so the graphics card is screaming when i do ACCURC but it still runs
oh yea - if its too old to be playing it, I understand
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oh yea - if its too old to be playing it, I understand
Hey man, running "medium" graphics and no issues (minus if i modify the standard heli with other servos, motors etc i get that tail wag/graphic glitch)

She's an old girl but she still does well. You don't need a graphic insane PC for a SIM... the physics in the game engine should be the same in the background i'd HOPE.

It is weird the SIM feels so easy to fly though.
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Old 05-18-2021, 05:34 AM   #9 (permalink)
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accuRC it's easy?
I'm trying to understand if this simulator is for me.
I haven't tried it but from the video on youtube it seems that the models they fly too perfect.
The models for me must have those little imprecision which render the simulation really realistic.
You've tried to insert the wind?
I tried, real flight, phoenix rc, clearview, flight simulator, reflex xtr.
And for me phoenix rc with wind activate is simulator more realistic.
Accurc if it has one modality demo i could try it and if is good i buy it
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Old 05-18-2021, 06:25 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Spider,
you can get the AccuRC demo on steam. You have to download steam and create a steam account.

You can also buy it on steam. If you don't like it, then return it within under 2 hours of use and you will get your money back.

Pheonix was the first sim I ever bought and it almost put me off sims for life.
AccuRC, Heli-X and RF are all better than Phoenix in my humble opinion.

AccuRC is well worth the $50.
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Old 05-18-2021, 06:54 AM   #11 (permalink)
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By all means, turn on the wind in AccuRC. It will make it more challenging. There’s two settings, wind speed and another for gusts/turbulence.

(Phoenix is not the only sim with wind)
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Old 05-18-2021, 06:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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AccuRC is definitely worth the $50. I've got several hundred hours on it.
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Oh good lord, Phoenix is not even close to AccuRC. I started with Phoenix and for upright flight it's ok, but once you progress to knife edge moves like tick-tocks, hurricanes or funnels, it's physics model falls apart.

And by the time you start adding in stirring moves like pyro flips, there's just no value in trying them on Phoenix, they don't translate to the real world.

AccuRC in contrast is the only sim I've ever found that does capture all those weird behaviours. The tail rotor pushing you slightly sideways, the little bobbles of the tail or disk during a hard stop, the model leaning slightly to one side in a stationary hover.

The reason I've stuck with AccuRC for so long is because of how much work they put into the physics. And the physics works even for advanced 3D flight.

Add to that the fact that if you want to tune or tweak the model, you tune it just like a real Heli. There's a full virtual ESC, FBL, radio, etc... And you can tweak your gains, rates, expo, blade size, motor, etc. Far easier to get AccuRC to fly just like your real model.

I'm afraid Phoenix isn't even close, I still have the software but the way it flies is just horrible once you've tried any other sim, and isn't even in the same league as AccuRC.

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Old 05-18-2021, 10:12 AM   #14 (permalink)
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i have to try it to talk.
The imprecision render the simulator more similar to reality.
Phoenix is dead, but between real flight and phoenix i prefer phoenix.
Now i try AccuRC
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I have phoenix and it has aged like a potato! it was good back in the day but not anymore. I've tried demos of Accurc and next. although I have to use a games controller as I don't own a dongle for my transmitter. From what I can tell Accurc feels close to phoenix, while next feels more like the real deal al be it still off by quite a bit.

op said loops and fi-8s feel weird in next.. haven't encountered that but from memory the momentum was sometimes a bit wonky. I'll have to test again. Accurc has a lot of settings to tweek and such. Still unsure which to get though
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unsure which to get though
AccuRC. We simulate basic things like, you know, tail thrust.
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I still sometimes use phoenix, though accurc and heliX more so now.

Phoenix has a lot of tunability in the models if you go into advanced model settings. This sim has taken a lot of people to a high level of skill and still runs so I wouldn't say its dead unless its a priority to have the latest models on super high res. Also the models are quite robotically locked in if left standard but thats up to the individual to tune model and wind.

I initially struggled with accurc as I felt the tuned phoenix was more like my real helis than accu. Just took time to learn what settings needed changing and adapting to the way the camera moves.
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Do not get me wrong - without a doubt worth the $50.
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I find some flying sights are better than others too. I like the flying fields because similar to where I fly but have found recently the asphalt skid pad looking one seems to 'pop' the heli (Kraken 580 and yellow kraken) better for visibility (Also running medium graphics on an i5 nuc.)
Yeah, I've got no complaint about the cost especially when you consider what 1 crash could be.
Planning to get a gaming pc to max it out. Looking at VR goggles but sure would like to try them before investing heavily.
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Old 05-20-2021, 05:02 AM   #20 (permalink)
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i have a pc gaming and in my pc there are first lag, not is fluid but nothing eccesive.
I tried the demo.
Ho can you tell that this simulator is realistic?
The model are assisted in maneuvers 3d.
It seems that the figures are too easy.
In reality the model helicopter they are different.
But you have tried phoenix rc version 6 or phoenix rc version 5.5?
In phoenix insert wind and edit model and set at 100% (harder sett).
Phoenix is very realistic but not need use phoenix version 5 why version 5 is a disaster.
Use phoenix 5.5 or phoenix 6.
AccuRC is too easy.
The maneuvers 3d they are perfect and are performed in a way unrealistic.
This simulator is on well street but for now phoenix 6 is best.
real flight is too easy.
reflex simulator it's not realistic.
AccuRC for me need to create a simulation more similar to reality
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